Vindman: Trump-Ukraine Call Record Omitted Biden-Related Mentions | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Vindman: Trump-Ukraine Call Record Omitted Biden-Related Mentions | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC


>>>BECAUSE IT’S A DAY SINCE>>>BECAUSE IT’S A DAY SINCE WE’VE BEEN ON THE AIR THERE’S WE’VE BEEN ON THE AIR THERE’S NEW BREAKING NEWS TO BRING YOU NEW BREAKING NEWS TO BRING YOU TONIGHT. TONIGHT. THIS TIME IT’S THE “THE NEW YORK THIS TIME IT’S THE “THE NEW YORK TIMES” THAT’S JUST BROKEN NEWS, TIMES” THAT’S JUST BROKEN NEWS, SOME FAIRLY EXPLOSIVE NEWS ABOUT SOME FAIRLY EXPLOSIVE NEWS ABOUT THE TESTIMONY THAT JUST WRAPPED THE TESTIMONY THAT JUST WRAPPED UP TODAY FROM LIEUTENANT COLONEL UP TODAY FROM LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALEXANDER VINDMAN WHO’S THE TOP ALEXANDER VINDMAN WHO’S THE TOP UKRAINIAN EXPERT ON THE NATIONAL UKRAINIAN EXPERT ON THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNSEL. SECURITY COUNSEL. WE KNOW BECAUSE “THE NEW YORK WE KNOW BECAUSE “THE NEW YORK TIMES” WAS THE FIRST TO REPORT TIMES” WAS THE FIRST TO REPORT LAST NIGHT ON THE CONTENT OF LAST NIGHT ON THE CONTENT OF COLONEL VINDMAN’S OPENING COLONEL VINDMAN’S OPENING STATEMENT. STATEMENT. WE KNOW HE WAS DUE TO TELL WE KNOW HE WAS DUE TO TELL CONGRESS TODAY IN THE CONGRESS TODAY IN THE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS ABOUT IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS ABOUT HIS CONCERNS AND THE FACT HE HIS CONCERNS AND THE FACT HE RAISED AN INTERNAL ALARM AFTER RAISED AN INTERNAL ALARM AFTER LISTENING IN ON THE PRESIDENT’S LISTENING IN ON THE PRESIDENT’S CALL TO THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE CALL TO THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE BECAUSE HE BELIEVED WHAT HE BECAUSE HE BELIEVED WHAT HE HEARD WAS IMPROPER AND HE HEARD WAS IMPROPER AND HE REPORTED IT UP THE CHAIN OF REPORTED IT UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. COMMAND. NOW ACCORDING TO “THE NEW YORK NOW ACCORDING TO “THE NEW YORK TIMES” WE’VE GOT MORE DETAIL AS TIMES” WE’VE GOT MORE DETAIL AS TO WHAT COLONEL VINDMAN TO WHAT COLONEL VINDMAN TESTIFIED ABOUT. TESTIFIED ABOUT. LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT THE LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT THE LEAD OF THEIR PIECE IS. LEAD OF THEIR PIECE IS. QUOTE, LIEUTENANT COLONEL QUOTE, LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALEXANDER VINDMAN TOLD HOUSE ALEXANDER VINDMAN TOLD HOUSE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATORS TODAY IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATORS TODAY THAT THE WHITE HOUSE TRANSCRIPT THAT THE WHITE HOUSE TRANSCRIPT OF A JULY CALL BETWEEN PRESIDENT OF A JULY CALL BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT TRUMP AND UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT OMITTED CRUCIAL WORDS AND OMITTED CRUCIAL WORDS AND PHRASES AND THAT HIS ATTEMPTS TO PHRASES AND THAT HIS ATTEMPTS TO RESTORE THEM FAILED. RESTORE THEM FAILED. CITING THREE PEOPLE FAMILIAR CITING THREE PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THE TESTIMONY, THEY WITH THE TESTIMONY, THEY DESCRIBED THIS BASIC PROCESS. DESCRIBED THIS BASIC PROCESS. “THE TIMES” SAYS, QUOTE, THERE’S “THE TIMES” SAYS, QUOTE, THERE’S NO RECORDING OF THE CALL AND NO RECORDING OF THE CALL AND NOTE TAKING AS WELL AS VOICE NOTE TAKING AS WELL AS VOICE RECOGNITION SOFTWARE BUT NAMES RECOGNITION SOFTWARE BUT NAMES AND TECHNICAL TERMS ARE AND TECHNICAL TERMS ARE FREQUENTLY MISSED BY THE FREQUENTLY MISSED BY THE SOFTWARE ACCORDING TO PEOPLE SOFTWARE ACCORDING TO PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER. FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER. AFTER THE CALL TOOK PLACE IN AFTER THE CALL TOOK PLACE IN WHICH COLONEL VINDMAN LISTENED WHICH COLONEL VINDMAN LISTENED IN HE WAS GIVEN A HARD COPY OF IN HE WAS GIVEN A HARD COPY OF THE ROUGH TRANSCRIPT TO MAKE THE ROUGH TRANSCRIPT TO MAKE UPDATES AND CORRECTIONS. UPDATES AND CORRECTIONS. COLONEL VINDMAN WENT THROUGH THE COLONEL VINDMAN WENT THROUGH THE TRANSCRIPT, MADE CHANGES AND TRANSCRIPT, MADE CHANGES AND GAVE HIS WRITTEN EDITS TO HIS GAVE HIS WRITTEN EDITS TO HIS BOSS, TIMOTHY MORRISON, WHO’S BOSS, TIMOTHY MORRISON, WHO’S THE CURRENT DIRECTOR OF RUSSIAN THE CURRENT DIRECTOR OF RUSSIAN AND EUROPEAN AFFAIRS AT THE AND EUROPEAN AFFAIRS AT THE SECURITY COUNSEL. SECURITY COUNSEL. BUT IN TERM OF WHAT VINDMAN BUT IN TERM OF WHAT VINDMAN TRIED TO CORRECT IN THAT TRIED TO CORRECT IN THAT TESTIMONY, THIS IS EXPLOSIVE, TESTIMONY, THIS IS EXPLOSIVE, THE OMISSIONS COLONEL VINDMAN THE OMISSIONS COLONEL VINDMAN SAID INCLUDED PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SAID INCLUDED PRESIDENT TRUMP’S ASSERTION THAT THERE WERE ASSERTION THAT THERE WERE RECORDINGS OF JOE BIDEN RECORDINGS OF JOE BIDEN DISCUSSING UKRAINE CORRUPTION DISCUSSING UKRAINE CORRUPTION AND AN EXPLICIT MENTION BY AND AN EXPLICIT MENTION BY UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT ZELENSKY OF UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT ZELENSKY OF BURISMA HOLDINGS. BURISMA HOLDINGS. COLONEL VINDMAN TOLD THE COLONEL VINDMAN TOLD THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATORS TODAY IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATORS TODAY HE TRIED TO CHANGE THE HE TRIED TO CHANGE THE CONSTRUCTED TRANSCRIPT MADE BY CONSTRUCTED TRANSCRIPT MADE BY WHITE HOUSE STAFF TO THOSE WHITE HOUSE STAFF TO THOSE OMISSIONS BUT THOSE TWO OMISSIONS BUT THOSE TWO CORRECTIONS WERE NOT MADE. CORRECTIONS WERE NOT MADE. COLONEL VINDMAN — DRIVING COLONEL VINDMAN — DRIVING FURTHER QUESTIONS HOW OFFICIALS FURTHER QUESTIONS HOW OFFICIALS HANDLED THE CALL AND THE HANDLED THE CALL AND THE DECISION TO PUT IT INTO THE DECISION TO PUT IT INTO THE WHITE HOUSE’S MOST CLASSIFIED WHITE HOUSE’S MOST CLASSIFIED COMPUTER SYSTEM AND ALSO DRIVE COMPUTER SYSTEM AND ALSO DRIVE QUESTIONS WHETHER THOSE MOVES QUESTIONS WHETHER THOSE MOVES WERE MEANT TO CONSEAL THE CALL’S WERE MEANT TO CONSEAL THE CALL’S MOST CONTROVERSIAL ASPECTS. MOST CONTROVERSIAL ASPECTS. YEAH, IT WILL. YEAH, IT WILL. JOINING US NOW IS MICHAEL JOINING US NOW IS MICHAEL McFALL, FORMER AMBASSADOR TO McFALL, FORMER AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA. RUSSIA. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. TONIGHT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU MAKING I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE TIME. THE TIME.>>SURE.>>SURE. GLAD TO BE HERE, RACHEL. GLAD TO BE HERE, RACHEL.>>COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON>>COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON HERE. HERE. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH COLONEL VINDMAN, EXPERIENCE WITH COLONEL VINDMAN, YOUR REACTION TO THE WAY HIS YOUR REACTION TO THE WAY HIS TESTIMONY WAS TREATED TODAY. TESTIMONY WAS TREATED TODAY. I DO HAVE TO ASK YOUR REACTION I DO HAVE TO ASK YOUR REACTION TO THE BREAKING NEWS JUST COMING TO THE BREAKING NEWS JUST COMING OUT FROM “THE NEW YORK TIMES” HE OUT FROM “THE NEW YORK TIMES” HE MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND SEEMS MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND SEEMS LIKE WAS PROPERLY INVOLVED IN LIKE WAS PROPERLY INVOLVED IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE WHITE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE WHITE HOUSE TRANSCRIPTS SLASH NOTES OF HOUSE TRANSCRIPTS SLASH NOTES OF THAT CALL WERE ACCURATE BUT WHEN THAT CALL WERE ACCURATE BUT WHEN HE TRIED TO MATERIALLY FILL IN HE TRIED TO MATERIALLY FILL IN NOTES LEFT OUT OF THAT NOTES LEFT OUT OF THAT TRANSCRIPT IT WAS REJECTED. TRANSCRIPT IT WAS REJECTED.>>I WORKED THREE YEARS AS THE>>I WORKED THREE YEARS AS THE SENIOR DIRECTOR, LISTENED TO SENIOR DIRECTOR, LISTENED TO MANY PHONE CALLS AND MY MANY PHONE CALLS AND MY DIRECTORS WRITE THE EQUIVALENT, DIRECTORS WRITE THE EQUIVALENT, THEY FREQUENTLY WOULD SIT DOWN THEY FREQUENTLY WOULD SIT DOWN THERE IN THE SITUATION ROOM NEXT THERE IN THE SITUATION ROOM NEXT TO THE TRANSCRIBERS SO THE TO THE TRANSCRIBERS SO THE DIRECTORS WOULD LISTEN AS WELL DIRECTORS WOULD LISTEN AS WELL AND THEN CORRECT THE RECORD JUST AND THEN CORRECT THE RECORD JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY GET ALL THE TO MAKE SURE THEY GET ALL THE FACTS RIGHT, ESPECIALLY AS YOU FACTS RIGHT, ESPECIALLY AS YOU JUST NOTED THE PROPER NOUNS, JUST NOTED THE PROPER NOUNS, RIGHT? RIGHT? WHO KNOWS WHAT BURISMA? WHO KNOWS WHAT BURISMA? THERE’S A GUY WHO DOES KNOW WHAT THERE’S A GUY WHO DOES KNOW WHAT BURISMA IS, IT’S COLONEL BURISMA IS, IT’S COLONEL VINDMAN. VINDMAN. IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE AN OFFICIAL IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE AN OFFICIAL RECORD. RECORD. SO THAT WAS LEFT OUT. SO THAT WAS LEFT OUT. IT IS SHOCKING TO ME. IT IS SHOCKING TO ME. THAT IS NOT STANDARD OPERATING THAT IS NOT STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. PROCEDURE.>>IF THERE IS A SCANDAL HERE,>>IF THERE IS A SCANDAL HERE, IF THERE IS SOMETHING IF THERE IS SOMETHING POTENTIALLY CRIMINAL HERE IN POTENTIALLY CRIMINAL HERE IN TERMS OF THE WHITE HOUSE TRYING TERMS OF THE WHITE HOUSE TRYING TO BASICALLY LOCK DOWN THE TO BASICALLY LOCK DOWN THE EVIDENCE ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S EVIDENCE ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S BEHAVIOR HERE, IMPROPERLY BEHAVIOR HERE, IMPROPERLY CLASSIFYING THIS MATERIAL OR CLASSIFYING THIS MATERIAL OR MOVING IT OR MAKING SURE THAT MOVING IT OR MAKING SURE THAT THE RECORDS WERE NOT CORRECT, THE RECORDS WERE NOT CORRECT, DELIBERATELY TO TRY TO PREVENT DELIBERATELY TO TRY TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM KNOWING EITHER PEOPLE FROM KNOWING EITHER INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT OR INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT OR ULTIMATELY IN THIS KIND OF ULTIMATELY IN THIS KIND OF IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING KNOWING IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING KNOWING AN ACCURATE RECORD OF WHAT AN ACCURATE RECORD OF WHAT HAPPENED, DO YOU BELIEVE THE HAPPENED, DO YOU BELIEVE THE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS WILL BE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF ABLE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT? THAT? ARE THESE PROCESSES IN THE WHITE ARE THESE PROCESSES IN THE WHITE HOUSE LEAVE ENOUGH OF A TRAIL HOUSE LEAVE ENOUGH OF A TRAIL THAT INVESTIGATORS WILL BE ABLE THAT INVESTIGATORS WILL BE ABLE TO FIND IT? TO FIND IT?>>I’M NOT SURE, RACHEL.>>I’M NOT SURE, RACHEL. THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER. I DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER. IT WOULD BE HARD — I HAD READ IT WOULD BE HARD — I HAD READ MULTIPLE TRANSCRIPTS IN MY TIME MULTIPLE TRANSCRIPTS IN MY TIME AT THE WHITE HOUSE. AT THE WHITE HOUSE. IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO RETRACE LIKE WHO IS THE ONE THAT RETRACE LIKE WHO IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY DID IT FINAL EDITS. ACTUALLY DID IT FINAL EDITS. USUALLY IT’S THE DIRECTOR IN USUALLY IT’S THE DIRECTOR IN CHARGE, RIGHT? CHARGE, RIGHT? USUALLY IT WOULD BE ME, THE USUALLY IT WOULD BE ME, THE SENIOR DIRECTOR AND MY SENIOR DIRECTOR AND MY DIRECTORS, THAT IS PEOPLE AT THE DIRECTORS, THAT IS PEOPLE AT THE LEVEL THAT COLONEL VINDMAN WAS LEVEL THAT COLONEL VINDMAN WAS SERVING THAT WOULD HAVE THE SERVING THAT WOULD HAVE THE FINAL SAY. FINAL SAY. THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT OBVIOUSLY THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT OBVIOUSLY WASN’T. WASN’T. BUT WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUT WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD THAT, I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD TRACE THAT. TRACE THAT. I DO THINK IT UNDERSCORES I DO THINK IT UNDERSCORES SOMETHING WE’VE TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING WE’VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. BEFORE. IF THIS WAS A PERFECT CALL AND IF THIS WAS A PERFECT CALL AND THERE’S NOTHING TO HIDE, WHY DID THERE’S NOTHING TO HIDE, WHY DID THEY PUT IT ON THIS SUPER SECRET THEY PUT IT ON THIS SUPER SECRET SERVER? SERVER? WHY ARE WE NOW LEARNING THAT WHY ARE WE NOW LEARNING THAT THEY DID NOT PUT IN FACTUALLY THEY DID NOT PUT IN FACTUALLY CORRECT CORRECTIONS THAT COLONEL CORRECT CORRECTIONS THAT COLONEL VINDMAN WAS TRYING TO PUT IN THE VINDMAN WAS TRYING TO PUT IN THE OFFICIAL RECORD? OFFICIAL RECORD?>>ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED>>ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT, SIR, IS TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT, SIR, IS BECAUSE I KNOW FROM YOUR TWITTER BECAUSE I KNOW FROM YOUR TWITTER FEED TODAY YOU SAID YOU SERVED FEED TODAY YOU SAID YOU SERVED WITH COLONEL VINDMAN IN MOSKOW. WITH COLONEL VINDMAN IN MOSKOW. YOU CALLED HIM A PATRIOT AND A YOU CALLED HIM A PATRIOT AND A FIRST RATE MILITARY ATTACHE, ONE FIRST RATE MILITARY ATTACHE, ONE OF THE BEST ON THE TEAM. OF THE BEST ON THE TEAM. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THE ATTACKS ON HIM, RESPOND TO THE ATTACKS ON HIM, FROM SOME OF THE PRESIDENT’S FROM SOME OF THE PRESIDENT’S SUPPORTERS IN CONGRESS SUPPORTERS IN CONGRESS ESSENTIALLY QUESTIONING HIS ESSENTIALLY QUESTIONING HIS PATRIOTISM, DESCRIBING HIM OZ PATRIOTISM, DESCRIBING HIM OZ HAVING SOME SORT OF SUSPECT HAVING SOME SORT OF SUSPECT LOYALTIES BECAUSE HE’S FROM AN LOYALTIES BECAUSE HE’S FROM AN IMMIGRANT FAMILY. IMMIGRANT FAMILY.>>FIRST, RACHEL, I WANT TO>>FIRST, RACHEL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ALREADY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ALREADY SAID ABOUT HIM BEFORE THE BREAK. SAID ABOUT HIM BEFORE THE BREAK. SECOND, WE LIVE IN A POLARIZED SECOND, WE LIVE IN A POLARIZED SOCIETY. SOCIETY. HERE AT STANFORD WE STUDY THE HERE AT STANFORD WE STUDY THE CAUSES OF POLARIZATION. CAUSES OF POLARIZATION. I PERSONALLY DEAL WITH IT. I PERSONALLY DEAL WITH IT. I KNOW YOU PERSONALLY DEAL WITH. I KNOW YOU PERSONALLY DEAL WITH. I FELT YESTERDAY WE REACHED A I FELT YESTERDAY WE REACHED A NEW LOW, HOWEVER. NEW LOW, HOWEVER. WHEN I SAY WHAT PEOPLE WERE WHEN I SAY WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING ABOUT DUAL LOYALTITIES, SAYING ABOUT DUAL LOYALTITIES, HYPHENATED AG HYPHENATED AG HYPHENATED HYPHENATED HYPHENATED ADJECTIVES AND EVEN HYPHENATED ADJECTIVES AND EVEN ONE SUGGESTION OF ESPIONAGE ONE SUGGESTION OF ESPIONAGE BECAUSE HE TALKS TO UKRAINIAN BECAUSE HE TALKS TO UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS, THAT’S IN HIS JOB OFFICIALS, THAT’S IN HIS JOB DESCRIPTION, BY THE WAY WORKING DESCRIPTION, BY THE WAY WORKING AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNSEL. COUNSEL. AND I FOUND IT COMPLETELY AND I FOUND IT COMPLETELY OUTRAGEOUS. OUTRAGEOUS. YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE WE COME TO YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE WE COME TO THAT PEOPLE THAT SIGN-UP TO THAT PEOPLE THAT SIGN-UP TO SERVE IN OUR COUNTRY IN HARMS SERVE IN OUR COUNTRY IN HARMS WAY, IN IRAQ AND ALSO THE WAY, IN IRAQ AND ALSO THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNSEL AND IN NATIONAL SECURITY COUNSEL AND IN OUR EMBASSIES AND KIEV AND OUR EMBASSIES AND KIEV AND MOSKOW, WE’VE DONE THIS BEFORE MOSKOW, WE’VE DONE THIS BEFORE AND IT REALLY TROUBLES ME ANYONE AND IT REALLY TROUBLES ME ANYONE WOULD INSINUATE ANYTHING ABOUT WOULD INSINUATE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. THAT. HE WAS A FIRST RATE MILITARY HE WAS A FIRST RATE MILITARY OFFICER AND HE WAS OUT STANDING OFFICER AND HE WAS OUT STANDING AND APPOINTED BECAUSE HE IS ONE AND APPOINTED BECAUSE HE IS ONE OF THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST. OF THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST. AND THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE WITH AND THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE WITH HIS RÉSUMÉ WOULD NOT SERVE THE HIS RÉSUMÉ WOULD NOT SERVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS JUST UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS JUST DISGUSTING. DISGUSTING. IT’S OUTRAGEOUS. IT’S OUTRAGEOUS. AND I WANT THOSE PEOPLE TO AND I WANT THOSE PEOPLE TO APOLOGIZE TO REMEMBER WHAT APOLOGIZE TO REMEMBER WHAT THEY’RE DOING WHEN THEY TAKE THEY’RE DOING WHEN THEY TAKE CHEAP SHOTS AT PEOPLE LIKE CHEAP SHOTS AT PEOPLE LIKE COLONEL VINDMAN WHEN THEY DON’T COLONEL VINDMAN WHEN THEY DON’T KNOW HIS BACKGROUND AND THEY KNOW HIS BACKGROUND AND THEY DON’T KNOW HIS HISTORY. DON’T KNOW HIS HISTORY.>>SIR, THANK YOU FOR BEING>>SIR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. HERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME. THE TIME.>>THANKS FOR LETTING ME SAY ALL

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