Tory leadership contender Jeremy Hunt discusses his Brexit policy on The Andrew Marr Show

Tory leadership contender Jeremy Hunt discusses his Brexit policy on The Andrew Marr Show



at the point of brexit the whole world is looking at britain and they are saying you know what's happening with all this brexit paralysis and I want them to know that we are a strong self-confident country that is going to stand up for democratic values and the security you need and at this moment in our history a very exciting opening of a chapter in our history I think we need to send that signal that Britain is back and our voice is going to be loud in the world you were going around the country making big spending pledges the difference with the Labour Party they did the same thing but they produced their grey book and they said all spending all current spending will be paid for and they explained how it was going to be paid for it wasn't popular but they had the honesty to talk about the tax rises that they were going to require for their for their spending proposals you are not you say you're being straight with people but your big spending plans which appear to come from extra boring and crossed fingers about the future state of the economy no not at all the Treasury themselves say that they have about 26 billion pounds of headroom that means that you could spend that money without increasing taxes without while sticking to the Chancellor's own fiscal rules but what I'm saying is spend that money wisely that's what a that's the choice of primers has to make spend it in a way that increases the growth of the economy that creates more opportunities for young people that the turbocharges what could be the most dynamic pro-business Pro enterprise economy in Europe and then you've create the wealth for all those other things you know as health secretary I campaign very hard for extra money for the NHS I like our new social mission to be the education system as you talked about I do think they need some more resources there'll care and social yeah you can do those things if the economy is is going from strength to strength and that's what you get with with a business person running it to several times you have mentioned this phrase Headroom and we're going to hear it again and again again I suspect in the context of this contest so let me read you what Paul Johnson admitted director of the IFS it's a respected body says spending the 26 billion pounds fiscal head from simply means borrowing that much more each year it is certainly not consistent with the conservative manifesto commitment to a balanced budget the chance to the current Chancellor Philip Hammond says damaging No Deal braixen would soak up all the fiscal Headroom we've built up that is not money that you can honestly spend though well Philip Hammond is right that if we had a No Deal brexit then some of these spending commitments would have to wait because you would need to divert that money to support businesses up and down the country Farms manufacturers and so on so it is true and that is why Hammond has built up that Headroom in case we have a no geo breaks it so with No Deal you drop these spending pledges I wouldn't drop them because I think we can make a success of No Deal but I would how would you pay them well I I'm saying they would take longer you wouldn't have that money at your fingertips straight away well Andrew let me just tell you all of those commitments the one that I would not drop is the one to reduce corporation tax as I say it's not the tax cut people are talking about on the doorstep when you meet them but it is one that was far out the economy in a way that would be helpful in a No Deal contest because we would have you know economic bumpiness and we need to support businesses and putting money in the pockets of businessman at that moment I think okay the right thing to do now you've made your campaign has made a big deal this morning about your new brexit negotiating team and your whole appeal really centaurea members has been I'm the guy who can do the deal so just explain to us what the plan is well I've indicated this morning the kind of international team that I will put together the best negotiators in the business for the trade deal that we will negotiate I think the hoses at Harper on board he is someone that well we've been having discussions with him and he's someone whose talents I would very much hope to use but my my point is this that that is for the trade deal post leaving the EU but ahead of that we have got to leave the EU and we know that Parliament will try very hard to stop a No Deal brexit so the the quickest way the safest way to leave the EU is to send to Brussels someone that they will talk to someone who can negotiate to deal a deal that can get through Parliament and I believe I'm the person to do that I was up in Scotland last week and ever lose very very interested neurons when you were asked in the end brexit or the Union which comes first and you said the Union every time is that your position it is my position but I think that for conservative party members what they would say and I agree with them is that we want both because we are a union and one of the most important things about our union so is that we are a democracy and that means we are a country where we do so people tell us to do and that means delivering brexit so the reason I'm asking that is almost every Scottish conservative I've spoken to or heard from anis believes that no di No Deal breaks it would be a real threat to the Union and could end Great Britain David Mandel who's the Scottish secretary at the moment I said called no deal a threat to the continuance of the United Kingdom that is a very very strong feeling in Scotland and yet as our potential Prime Minister that's where you're prepared to take us so how can you say that Union comes first Andrew I have Welsh blood in me Irish blood in me I spent a couple of very happy years of my childhood in Scotland I am a union to my fingertips and I will never allow our union to be broken up and what is delivering brexit means a No Deal in which case you will know because what David Mandel said is right but of course there are risks you think what someone like Nicola Sturgeon would do politically if we had a No Deal situation and we would have to get through that and that is why a No Deal brexit is not my first choice but in the end if the only way to leave the European Union that I'm so without a deal let me finish Andrew if the only way to leave the European Union is without a deal then I would do that and we will make a success of it and we will protect the Union but we would have to be very sensitive to the concerns that people like David Mandel raised because you're absolutely right it would not be popular in Scotland I don't understand how you can both be the Union first every time and being prepared to endanger that by going for a No Deal brexit those two things must be in contradiction no because it's not a question of choosing one or the other but it's a mercy it's a question no it's not it's a question of choosing a prime minister who has the capability to deliver both and if you send to Brussels someone who can negotiate a deal that can get through Parliament then you won't have a No Deal situation and then you reduce those risks but I'm also very clear that we are going to leave the European Union come what may and I will deliver that but if I if that happens I will do it in a way that protects well again because it's absolutely vital we do if that happens we're talking again about a no do you live quite a moment in one of the hustings where you were talking about going to a company and Kidderminster with 350 employees doing very very well in European markets and you talked about the devastating effect that 10% terrorists would have on that company now if you go through a No Deal every person in that company will lose their jobs you were as you famously said again and again and again an entrepreneur you've built up a business lots and lots of people who have built up their businesses around the country including the guy behind that business will lose their companies if you take us through No Deal are you really prepared to do that are you prepared to look those people in the eye and say you've got to lose your job because I'm going for No Deal I would do so but I would do whether I would do it with a heavy heart because precisely because of the risks but but you know if you choose someone who has got a better chance of negotiating a deal then you're not going to have to face that decision if your company was in that position if you'd built up your company and a politician came along and said I'm sorry I'm going to destroy your company because I've I've got an ideological reason why I have to do that well what I would say to the people in that company is what I would say to the people in that company is that you know I go around the world as foreign secretary and I find that people have a whole lot more respect for us than we sometimes have for ourselves and the heart of that respect is that we are one of the oldest and greatest democracies in the world and we are a country ok where politicians do what the people tell them to do so if in order to do what the people tell us to do we have to leave without a deal I would do that but I would find support for those companies to help them weather the storms as a businessman I know that's not going to be easy but I will be there for them but in the end if we don't do what the people tell us to do we're not a democracy and I don't think even those businesses would want me to ignore what people have told us to do you told me last time we talked that Boris Johnson's deadline is a fake deadline wasn't a real deadline now you don't have a real deadline at the moment I asked you 10 times when your real deadline first leaving the EU was and you weren't able to give me an answer so can I ask you one more time will you definitely get us out of the EU this year well I think this is a fake debate actually well let me let me explain why because you know the difference between me and Boris is is not as big as people are saying you know if we got to the end of October and we've got a deal and we're trying to get it through Parliament but we need a few more parliamentary days I'm not gonna rip up that deal Boris is but let me finish the net and let me fish at the beginning of October if there is no prospect of a deal that can get through Parliament then I will leave at the end of October because that is our democratic promise to the British people what one more time because Michael Gove answered these kind of questions he said well a few days a few weeks and I said by the end of November by the end of this year is it definitely by the end of this year sure can you say the same I believe we'll leave sooner with me than with Boris or anyone else because I am the person most likely to negotiate a deal and that is the quickest way to leave but you know what you're saying is something that is a dilemma Parliament is trying to stop a No Deal brexit they succeeded before they may succeed again that is an issue that will face any Prime Minister whatever they've said about the 31st of October the quickest way to leave EU is to choose a prime minister who can actually get us a deal but can get through Parliament and if you want a deal done ask a business person Jeremy

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