The Youth Parliament Debate - Politics Debate - Part 2

The Youth Parliament Debate – Politics Debate – Part 2



I think before going further into the debate what we need to analyze is the real meaning of this phrase aspirations of the youth now Ashwin has been talking about the least common denominators but let's FaceTime an employability for you and me may not mean the same thing as employability for the chod toward the nearest harbour and so basically what we need to understand is that the youth is not this homogenic homogenous monolithic block and there's no common unified list of aspirations which we can you know work on and then go after the political class with that there is in fact a diversity within the youth the youth form different parts the youth come from different sections of the society and therefore there is also a heterogeneity of aspirations and these aspirations are something that we some you know we are often not ready to understand and for example we all get very irritated by these you know troublemaking tribals in Orissa who are not allowing Vedanta to mine for bauxite in the neon green hills what we do not understand is that they've been living there for hundreds of years and they have their own very genuine aspirations with regard to what should happen in those hills where there are two any mining that should happen in those hills or you know for instance how the entire issue of JAL jungle Jimena the assertion of Rights by the youth belonging to rural and tribal areas is something that we are very disconnected with and that we don't tend to understand and I mean a look at the treatment we give to the northeastern youth and how many of us are concerned that Iran share Mila is going to complete 13 years of hunger in a simple aspiration for justice and for that matter let's look at how we ignore the fear of racial profiling that Muslim youths feel today I mean the very fact that me a very mainstream middle-class Muslim youth my parents don't allow me to travel on a national holiday because they're afraid something bad might happen that something bad might happened to me because of my Muslim name so these are things that the problem of aspirations the frustration of aspirations is something that has a lot to do with the social incoherence which is present before us today the gap of understanding between different sections of the society and therefore between different different sections of the youth I mean apart from a very elite class how many people shall celebrate festivals together today why is this greater ghettoization between different communities so this is leading to very incoherences or social functioning which is that this social crisis is spilling over into the political scenario and here I would like to say we are making a very very big mistake by drawing the sharp differentiation between the political class and everybody else between the political class and the youth because why do we not own up why do we not realize that we are all part of the politics I mean we have professor you came three other here we are you just called him now he is part of the political class it's not as if suddenly professor yada one day decided that I want to become a politician the fact of the matter is throughout his life his entire right his entire Academy I academics his entire civil activism has been geared towards a certain kind of politics similarly the activities of an NGO or a human rights organization or for that matter a corporate firm are all geared towards a certain kind of politics why do we not realize that why do we tend to disappear disassociate ourselves from the political class and said these are some sort of an alien entity who've been installed before us the apathy in the youth the way student unions have become irrelevant the way we refuse to come to the streets for something that we believe in is something that is most appalling and most dangerous I mean the care the care the recent case of the Delhi gang-rape and the way students got involved is a very rare example of how we get up for something that we truly believe in and that is something that we need to look for that is something we need to start owning up taking responsibility and start saying that the political class is all of us we live in a democracy and it's the job of all of us to not be not just choose people who will be connectors between power and people and power yes but to become the connect between people in power that's all I have to say for now if I was well well argued you make a point here and I want kiran bedi who's going to be our next speaker to respond to that point that the point that you make is very interestingly articulated what you're saying is that politicians are only the symptom of the social malaise at best and therefore you make a very controversial point for wise and I like controversy you are making a point that the politicians are the favorite whipping boys but they don't deserve politician syndrome have I understood you correctly yeah I I am electing to blame the politicians in Rome I think it's just the right point in this debate to throw the floor to our third speaker speaking for the motion dr. Kiran Bedi you have three minutes to argue back if I would take his three point three points one while he spoke were number one that there is no common aspiration as his quality of life is concerned to my mind quality of life is a common aspiration the pattern may change the extent may change it may have that kind of variety but the quality of life basic quality of life I think is everyone's aspiration number one this is my first world my second rebuttal would be he talked about the jungle jungle jungle and Zameen this is exactly what has been bled by the politicians it's been bled gel has been bled jungle has been bled Zameen has been bled you had politicians who've been encroaching on the land and you had politicians who been bleeding it by emptying the Exchequer at the vise you would not have had those hundreds of those districts in induction areas and this has happened over the years and the ball therefore is in this is exactly what is being caused by the politicians and third it is the same same a political class which is the bleeding Club which has been actually bleeding class so they are actually a BPL class which has been bleeding the Exchequer gel jungle and zoo mean they've been pleading to lead pleading to lead it's pleading to lead it's a ppl class which has been bleeding which has been pleading and which has been wanting to lead now where did it fail in leading to my mind as I'm a former public servant they fail to lead even the public servants while in pleading to get the watch they've failed miserably to lead the bureaucracy as well actually they've abused bureaucracy like you've seen the judge the the fodder case what has happened it's a nexus between the politicians and the bureaucrats that you have been signing up all false builds and that is why bureaucrats and politicians today are going to be convicted for many many years and they're already in jail so therefore I would say the politicians to lead either the people who they bled and who depleted for votes as well as lead the bureaucracy who was accountable to them so I would therefore rebut this that the failure goes back to the politicians who bled who pleaded and who led miserably Karen Bailey thank you very much forceful argument as usual and she makes a case that this is the political class which has bled this country and therefore the disaffection I presume which the youth experiences or the disenchantment that the experience with the body politic is because of their insensitivity it's the right time to get in Congress parties such in pilot as the minister in the Manmohan Singh cabinet to respond to the points that Karen made the is made on the subject to do against the motion such a well first of all I think it's a the topic of discussion today is about the political class not living up to the expectations of young people in India what this nation represents is much more than youth there is multiple facets to a society but just one point before I take on the main debating issues now I respect dr. Bailey very much and I think she's very passionate when she makes certain statements but often times I've seen it is our officers and our bureaucrats and our officials who seem to find a voice a little after they retire but while they're working I don't see the kind of response I should be coming from the people who are actually signing on files and then when the day is gone by it's easy to point fingers and find faults but I think the ultimate responsibility lies with the political class but the system comprises of more than just politicians there are judicial officers there are bureaucrats there are police official the administration's there are whole lot of stakeholders which ultimately reflect India's functionality it's quite easy to blame politicians as you said or not even though you said you're not biased but I think your statements are quite clear that the ultimate buck stops with the politician and I'm the last one to shrug responsibility but I would like the house to consider the point that this nation is where it is today and for all the ills that we can illustrate today and point fingers and find fault with the politicians the last six and a half decades have some glorious moments to it the direction the the way the country has moved forward the way we are today the kinds of Economic Opportunity Ashwin's point was primarily related to amount of Economic Opportunity I am people are able to get or not get today do not forget there are many countries around the world that there have been revolutions there have been governments toppled but our democracy because of the thinking of our politicians we may have difference of opinion me and her sympathy come from different political parties but there are certain issues that are sacrosanct our system our faith in a democracy our faith in a system however you may criticize it ultimately for the kind of country that we live in the scale scope depth diversity large nation that we are the fact that we've kept ourselves together is because of the political leadership there has been they would have this country left collapsed 20 years ago 30 years ago but for all that we criticize a political class me included I think we have done a seminal job in keeping the lamp of democracy burning the faith of people every five years they go out in wood and elect or reelect or reject people that system has sustained in the subcontinent only in India look around our neighborhood there is not one single country that has the capacity to absorb the kind of aberration that we have in a system so young people in India today have a voice the fact that we are having a Youth Parliament today – 2013 didn't have this 25 years ago it's because young people have finally found a voice they have been able to come out and express themselves democracy is not about getting elected to positions of power democracy is about being involved in the process asking questions making people accountable taking them to task this sort of response because of the technology because of the awareness that we have today has come because with countries move forward 25 years ago India was not in a position to ask these tough questions today the empowerment enlightenment the awareness the curiosity the creativity the imagination of young people has captured everyone and I think we must be a tribute to our young people politicians politicians of course are a reflection of our society no politician is imported from the moon they're from the same gully same ojala same universities and convicted or not convicted these people get elected who elects them we all elect them so let's have an affection within ourselves and see how we to improve our own societal values so that we get a much better political class I'm an optimist and I believe moving forward if young people keep the faith get good educated intelligent can people with lot of conviction and principles into the political mainstream we will in India that is truly worth worthy of being called an issue of the 21st century sergeant pilot let's give a round of applause Sachin Pilot says that India is much more than the youth but the youth 35 and under is 51% of this country such it and if I were to look at your and Pfizer's arguments put together I am only placing it in context I'm not getting into this debate but if I take that argument fires at what you said it's interesting and I want this site to actually think about it and respond because if you fire says that almost everything which has gone wrong is the representative of social Meli's so what's wrong is the responsibility of society such it argues that everything that's held this country together is because of its politics so everything that's good is because of its politics everything wrong society everything are largely a lot of things good politics it's a controversial point but the more controversial point is the direct charge you made at Kiran Bedi indirectly saying that she said nothing when she was working when she was part of the system and that her own social awakening has happened post retirement she's not going to let go of that I hope not later on this debate but we are going to move on for the moment and just a reminder to all our participants and audience this is an introductory comments for if speaking for more we'll speak after this and after that we have open debate in the middle of the open debate we'll have our youth participants asking questions as well we go back to the open debate Kiran Bedi you want to rebut I know quick just one statement a one second one second now there are some rules if he concedes if this side can see do they concede to a 15 second interjection from Karen yes you can see that's right my book called it's always possible documents and it was written while in service a book called it's always possible documents the entire corruption which was happening in Tihar jail my book called I dare documents the entire criminalization of police and the way policing was being being failed is documented while in service the government never came back to rebut it right okay but and you were that's when you were in service

34 thoughts on “The Youth Parliament Debate – Politics Debate – Part 2

  1. Every time Sachin Pilot opens his mouth, every time it's sugar coated pile of shit. Such a hue and cry when he has been an acting mistress of the God dame congress. He will never earn a respect for himself. Such a waste!!

  2. Pls support Zero Budget politics which helps common man get into politics with no money and back ground
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  3. Fawad has good communication skills but lacks strong points to defend he brought social issues we are divided by the politicians openly so that can take our mind away from common man issues that is the survival of any person, basic needs of all of us.

  4. i think this debate should be in hindi also & regular so that it reachable to much more people🙏🙏🙏

  5. यह भारत है देश की भाषा हिन्दी कहा है

  6. Sachin pilot made a really good point that the bureaucrats talk about corruption and all only when they are out of service, they do not agitate when they are in service, fulfilling the demands and desires directed by the politicians.

  7. Aspire to inspire something +ve quality of free life for India's youth people of India ( serving the nation ) Listening to citizens about the functionality of the system .

  8. Well, just because the "intelligent" got their way out doesn't justify the plight of the youth with unrealized potential who are made to be lost in the world of internet at 150/- not knowing which channel to explore for their future. Is it all the youth's fault that they suffer from depression, not knowing where to go, or is it the education system and political intentions are to be blamed. I would say both.

  9. Sachin Pilot's argument is baseless and most invalid. 25 years of politics helped in India's development towards technology?
    Even Pakistan, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe changed a lot in 25 years. That's Global Development. Nothing to do with Indian politics. And debates? Ever heard of debates of various forms in Indian history? Indians have always been argumentative and debate- inclined.

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