Episode 96: Games Journalism at its Worse

Episode 96: Games Journalism at its Worse



hello and welcome to episode 96 of nolo time my name is Hamed filius and with me is the most interesting man in the world Julian what's good no load time good to be with you Oh bed I love that shirt you're wearing man I know for those of you are listening you can't see it but this guy's rocking an awesome shirt right now Star Wars Weekends 2007 sir and Mickey's in the middle there at the lightsaber okay yeah those were good times I'm guessing that's obsolete now because of galaxies the galaxies hatch already opened in Disneyland soon opening here I'm pretty excited fragile oh absolutely had the chance to go to Disney springs over the weekend and they have some cool merchandise already for for galaxy's hedge and bringing new stuff in for Star Wars overall some new really nice shirt designs and what now that they have so I'm pretty excited for for that to open up but probably I'm gonna I'm gonna let it breathe probably gonna be go next year I know you're a pass holder you'll probably be there I'll give you guys I'll give you guys coverage on the madness I'll be right there in it there you go yeah I'm gonna let it breathe man I'm gonna go in like January or something especially that you have a family and everything do you like near your daughter everything that's a wise choice let her breathe but for those are sweat E's that make it out there yeah whatever yeah I let Pandora breathe for like eight months and is there we're still like a three yard line for the oh yeah passage so it's still like that now yeah yeah yeah it's nice man but I'm really excited free oxy session based on why I saw from Disneyland it's it's gonna be it's gonna be great man and the one here is bigger than the one at Disney and this try they did not have the blessing of space we do over here in Florida so yep they can definitely build on that oh man and I also saw some pictures for the guardians of the galaxy right that's coming along pretty nicely I know it looks really cool every time I go by Epcot I see all the work they're doing if they have four tombstones moved out dude of EPCOT in the front now I got my own stone out of it seems so out of there so they're gonna be moved in the front of them all the way like you know front towards the parking area not as you enter in but but yeah epic odds come along but big big news there is really just the guardians thing I'm curious if they're gonna do the Avengers land here just like they Deering and Disney Land I know that's issues with the universal thing but we'll have to see if they can work out a deal or whatnot but we'll see yeah I doubt it I doubt it unless they they really put down money and get you know that licensing back from Universal for those of you that don't know don't know Universal Islands of Adventure over here in Orlando has a a Marvel themed land right and that deal was made in the mid nineties when Marvel was bankrupt and and that deal was in perpetuity I'd to eat on the East Coast so basically in the east coast of the US no one else can build any Marvel themed at Park area other than then Universal that's why you know we're at Disneyland we we've already you know their characters are there and they're you know building the separate land and why not but over here is a little bit more complicated so exactly I know that Disney's been trying to get out of that deal for a while now but it's one of the worst it's one of the worst deals but like you said they had to do it they were they were broke people don't realize this billion-dollar franchise literally had no money exactly yeah Marvel back in the nineties that were broke I mean this was something that Universal probably paid you know like a bag of Cheetos and a Dwight Howard trading cart for it and it gotta I got a pretty good deal and I get those licenses oh for sure I'm sorry a chat Trading Card back then because right yeah it's more a lot more reason but yeah it's the check trading card from from his time in the magic and then back of Tito's so get the marble license bring marble to Orlando yeah there we go but yeah I mean I consider all things considered Jill that that little area normal area that they have a universal is pretty neat oh I agree I think it yeah cuz it's not MCU themed of course is comic book thing right and it looks nice I mean and even the character costumes and wanna looks fine and those final rounds good hulks great the word coasters so I don't know about you but I wouldn't be mad if for some reason like they were able to make a deal where both could have Marvel characters one being more cinematic the other being you know the universal truth is I wouldn't be angry if the two could exist it looked like they could use like this thing could use basically Marvel characters with the MCU likeness versus yeah the comic book-like knows that they have a universal that would make sense but that would confuse people well they would I wouldn't be mad go get the best of both worlds exactly everything but yeah and it's a good stuff you start going in the area man absolutely you've got a Super Nintendo land opening in I know any 23 question mark maybe we'll see there's a separate park that universals building and then whatever our Disney's doing which is they're revamping a lot of stuff that Tron coaster yes Magic Kingdom your daughter's gonna be excited about that Nintendo stuff man Oh Marius I sure she's crazy about Mario and I show her the video and I can't wait for them to open in in Osaka because they opened in Osaka next year at that okay Universal Studios in Osaka so I can't wait to get video that so I can show her it's like oh yeah so this is what it looks like and then she's gonna ask me what it's like I doubt mommy's gonna want to go on a trip to Japan yeah it's a lot of money too oh yeah absolutely that would that being the main thing right but I think that the the projection is that the California version of it was gonna be done in 2021 so okay maybe if I don't want to wait until the one here opens cuz apparently it's gonna get him delayed and wait forever but yeah but yeah yo what's up how are you yeah dude I'm I'm doing great I know last week we talked about the speculation of Avengers being re-released in theaters so I'm ramping up now I think this weekend actually gonna open up and in theaters the day announced so I'm gonna try and get back out there aside from that I'm literally two episodes away from finishing Jessica Jones I mean we just thought we just recorded like you know last week and it's been what now there's now the third week now I think I'm mentioning the show Jessica Jones and I'm still not done yet it's just that much of a drag so I'm not gonna repeat the same stuff if you want to hear my thoughts in the last episodes at this point I just want to see how it ends I'll tell you guys how it ends that's the real question I think everybody's interested in is how do they do they wrap the bowtie of you know this is the end of the Marvel Netflix stuff or do they just kind of end the Jessica Jones story and pay no regard to anything else I don't know will opt to see yeah I mean it's there I'll watch it if I get to it yeah I mean based on what you told me I'm not just not too excited to to go in and watch it I enjoyed the first season quite a bit you know it dragged a little bit towards like episode 9 10 that that's season could have used like three less episodes like ten episodes would have been perfect yeah there was a couple episodes that definitely felt like filler where you know they were trying to give you some backstory but you know at the same time it's just that he just felt artificially stretched basic right too much yeah so I mean eventually I'll get to it so not much on my end dude I haven't haven't had time to do a lot have family in town did you know played some more Zelda I think I'm done with it for now I was thinking of starting a Master Quest on it but I'll let it breathe I'll come back to it I'm actually looking forward to playing battlefront this week and Ralph's run to this coming weekend because there's a big update coming out that came out just Tuesday this week or yesterday basically or two days ago if you're listening on Thursday in there they're adding it's it's like I think for ps4 it's like a four and a half gig patch in there adding a gate new game-mode new map they're adding a bunch of stuff so so I'm looking forward to playing some of that I may just jump back jump back into the mc5 play it on on Don Tomas die so I'm gonna try that try some battlefront let Zelda breathe a little bit I put like 200 hours on that game and so I'm good for now and I finished the second DLC so the the champions ballad DLC I finished that that's good and I mean the the what you get out of that is great now you know that like the basically the bonus is that you get on finishing that is definitely worth it in the first DLC the the trials of the Master Sword or trials for the sword whatever is called that one I did part of it I'm missing the last trial I don't think I'm gonna go back as he's too hard I was like I don't have I get I get super salty because I've made mistakes then then if it's my fault I know it's my fault right so I get salty I'm not I'm gonna blame in the controller or anything I'm blaming the lag no but yeah so so I may not just go back into that but uh I may go back into a master quest that Joel neon genesis evangelion south on Netflix is the first time it's been available for streaming so I watched the first episode I haven't watched so I didn't finish the series I watched I want to say the first three episodes back in the day when it came out on VHS and and that was it I didn't get a chance to actually go back and wrap it up but the series hasn't been available for streaming until now so I watched the first episode of that they really cleaned up the the picture really good so it looks pretty good and I watched an urge or in the original Japanese I know that they redubbed it so the first time that I watched it I watched it dub those three or four episodes that I watched watched them the so I'm gonna try and watch new Japanese this is a new dub we knows a better modern dub but uh but I still want to experience the the original on that red PSA hey guys if you guys like it that gun Titan catch up cuz that thing's thinks good thinks real good I've heard great things about it I think's real good man it's like this last episode of mind blowing and it just that like this last five episodes Joe it's it's it's just being like goosebumps dude it's like it's crazy like each episode is so good and then it ends in like basically a dent in that they they are all ending and sort of like twists and it's just so good it's it's fantastic so whatever they're doing with it but you know we the anime I don't know how they're planning on doing you know season four if that's in the works I don't know we'll see on that Jojo was really good too so yeah that's what I got it nice not watching what's off of you know catching up watch a couple things yeah well I wanna try and actually catch though story over the weekend so the wife said it's like that's good yeah yeah he's in the movie yeah what's his what's his name's like Duke Duke something yeah he's like the guy the motorcycle Evel Knievel so yeah yeah so that's that's that's pretty cool but yeah Joe Star Wars thrust Skywalker it's a movie that we're looking forward to of course right you're ever sitting right here so we're definitely looking forward to that there there's been of course this some most titles for movies when they get to Japan change and sometimes when they get to other parts of the world they change Joe tell us about those changes absolutely so the rise of Skywalker now we're starting to see the promotional premiere material pop up and these other places and like you with that comes translation you know when when the last one came out the last Jedi if you remember the biggest controversy of that movie was that the last line is that you know this last of the Jedi and people are thinking like wait a second you mean like after this movie there will be no more Jedi and they're just gonna be force wielders and it was like a whole like the bay but in the fandom which is why a lot of argument so if it happened because people thought they figured it out right so so one of the someone the transition things with that movie the last one was in I forget where it was was a Spanish translation of the last Jedi and it was los últimos Jedi and it was plural so not saying singular it was like the last of the Jedi like completely nutso people were like wait a second like the last Jedi last group of Jedi and that kind of revealed itself later on watched a movie right so the same things seems to be maybe the case here Star Wars Episode nine rise of Skywalker now is having these translation stuff come up and in Japan it's ashli listed i've been translated rather to us directly as Star Wars dawn of Skywalker and then in Poland Obed they actually have it translated as Star Wars Star Wars Skywalker resurrection which makes even more mind-blowing the little gift going like so you and I talked about the images that came out a while back Vanity Fair to the whole thing that they put out there and one that one of the really cool images was of Luke Skywalker and he doesn't look like a ghost to you and I he looked very alive we talked about his robot Han so I just robot Han you wouldn't have that if you're like why would you show this are you trying to go backwards and you and I said wait a second and the flashback scenes he had that shorter brown hair and this one he clearly has the same longer hair that you see when he sees Rey so dude what are your thoughts is does this confirm Luke Skywalker's back pretty much period period period question mark it's in my opinion yes it does I could be wrong okay I've been known to be wrong from time to time Oh better you gonna hate this episode 9 we're gonna hate episode 9 if they don't bring him back cuz you figure it out Joe I'm too old for this crap we I don't get mad before first I was like I don't get mad for other people's art ixas the artistic choices Star Wars is not mine you know I if I own Star Wars possibly but I don't own it you know I just watch it from the outside I really enjoy it though I mean point being we're not man babies yeah there you go thank you yeah we'll talk about my babies here first the show we have a pretty substantial rent to go on good couldn't make a break in all the time Joe it's very well be our final episode I don't know well next week can't make episode 100 I know next Leo just speaking of next week I mean next week we're not gonna be back he's fourth right so we're thinking that week off but but the next episode is gonna be there a little time last it's like yeah Joe and I are no longer friends baby is getting our way no but you're going back to horse you know I'm a mope open-minded kind of dude I'm not gonna go to the movie theater and cry over artistic choices and and you know all this stuff so you know I write I stated it on the on the podcast before I thoroughly enjoyed the last yet I I thoroughly enjoyed wrote one I enjoyed solo okay but you know but I didn't cry I didn't burn my blu-ray when I watched it you know so it's it was like screw it I'm burning it all to the ground it's not a competition yes I changed our petition no I'm not you know whatever dude is like that if man babies want to cry you know about this that's that's their prerogative I'm not my time doing that so I got bigger more important things to worry about so yeah I think he's gonna be back because of the Papa teen stuff that we already got teased basically is gonna be like I have a job to finish sort of thing and I'm back but how is he back it was he never gone to begin with very well see what did he become one front with the force and came back we in which case he wouldn't have his you know cybernetic arm or hand so yeah I mean you and I have talked about JJ coming back to fulfill his vision and like you can tell very clearly from the force awakens that movie is complete setup like it's it's absolutely fanfare they're trying to you know reimagine some of the magic of the original movies I acknowledge that I get that but it also was a big setup for you know teasers of where they get the franchise can go who's raised parents you know all these different kinds of things up that would love people interested in wanting a sequel one see what happens the last Jedi allow people a lot of people had different feelings about you know we just talked about man babies but you're looking at this here like to meet this if if Luke is back I don't think it's him doing it because they're trying to make people necessarily happy I think it's just gonna be strictly because of story and strictly because JJ had plans for Luke or the Skywalker's in general and there's some there's things that need to be done that involved this character or the Skywalker's in general however that you want to take that you know where that being Rey being a Skywalker whatever whatever the plutonium JJ had I think he's gonna come back and and and do what what he wanted to do cuz he can't so yeah yeah I think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be back like like legit back yeah and you know at the end of the movie maybe he held for realsies you know eat it but but I think I think it's gonna be back and not in a force ghost sort of way just like I think Papa Dean's gonna be back for real – so yeah sour scent yeah you can't wait what about what six months wait I know December almost yeah seven months so yeah looking forward to that don't we talk a little bit about the Avengers game that's being published by Square Enix developed by Crystal Dynamics also by the way Avengers Avengers infinity not an affinity war endgame or infinity War part two because that's what it is it really is so some of the nouns yeah yeah that's how exactly that's how it wasn't as blu-ray comes out August 13th yes and it's gonna be available of course blu-ray DVD and 4k blu-ray I am definitely getting my 4k version of that I already got most of the like the newer stuff on 4k for for Marvel so I'm definitely getting dad when it comes out and yeah it's uh I'm looking forward to actually watching it at home and and over analyzing it again because that one was really good I know and yeah three hours I mean a home is gonna be fine so I'm not too worried about that but going back to the Avengers game Joe or you know the the stunt double edition some some call it now it's uh we got some new gameplay details about the coop and and how the the story is gonna play out Joe you want to tell us a little bit more about that yeah so you know you and I had when rumors are coming out in Italy about you know these guys working on an Avengers game and then it was confirmed and you know I've been talking about this for a long long time until this precinct Amukamara friendly I should got to Comic Con so right this reason III where we actually got a look at this game you know was about which what would be the main characters you know how would you be able to play with these characters and so basically what came out of this is that the developers are saying you will be able to play all those characters as we kind of saw glimpse of that gameplay in the trailer however there will be certain missions that will require you to only stay as one particular character so it's not gonna be the whole time you're running around Ultimate Alliance style where it's you and the four characters you pick and then you're just like okay and now I'm gonna switch between Hulk and now I'm going to switch back 14 Iron Man there will be times for that apparently but for the but there's gonna also be missions where it's like look only only Black Widow can do this or only you know this guy can take care of this so I found out to be a little interesting and it might change our perspective a little bit on that that's just a story mode in the campaign in this game yeah I mean when when the game was originally announced they did mention that the game will have a co-op but then when we saw the game at e3 it sort of looked like a like more of a single-player focused right sort of experience it makes sense that there are some team-up missions basically and that's in essence what it is so there will be certain missions in the game certain story missions in the game where you will have the ability to connect with someone online and and basically play the mission in co-op so to give you an idea joel dell may cry 5 has a very similar system where through and through that game is a single-player focused experience but there are certain missions i want to say more specifically towards the end there's maybe two or three missions where we're you get two characters in the same basically space and and drew basically battling it out and you know against you know the horse or whatever so that's how I see this happening right where you're playing through a scenario and then all of a sudden you would get a thing an in-game alert saying you know bro 4/20 has joined the game and and and you can just play with fun bro the rest of the mission as a co-op patient so so I think it's gonna be something similar to that – to what Devil May Cry 5 did and that's cool because Devil May Cry 5 it actually sort of worked pretty good I mean you will get the occasional troll but I didn't want to turn it off just because I wanted to see what it was and and and when I first started the game when I was kind of you know crowded a lot of people were playing the game at the same time I did stumble upon some actual real-life people that were playing the game when I did my second playthrough I think most of those people were were basically ghosts of you know I someone played the game and basically you could get a ghost recording of what they did so that's how I see something like this happening dude as you're describing this not to change games but I am thinking of death stranding dude and how that's gonna interact like you with other players I think this training is gonna be was probably gonna have something similar to this where there's gonna be different Sam's and different planes of dimension and then yeah I can definitely see the stranding being something like that so yeah sounds good to me I mean this is good I'm this game looks fine man yeah like an action it looks good there was a little some leaked footage I don't know if you have a chance to I ate it looked good it looked good like to combat looks solid and yeah and there's way to the combat and the way they move is good so there's several things that are you know that seem to be in order so we'll see we shall see yeah and the other piece of news regarding the agile is that they has confirmed they they've already confirmed the game was gonna have microtransactions and it's gonna be cosmetic micro section so he's not gonna be paid wind mechanics and there's no random loot boxes so they did confirm all that but they they will have a rarity system and to me this basically sounds like destiny which is interesting because I know that destiny again destiny is sort of the same way right you have a single-player experience that you can do and you can use it you can do your single-player missions but you can stumble upon people fighting some thing and you know you can help them out and get some loot out of that right so maybe they'll do something like that or maybe they'll have a separate game mode with like an arena sort of base thing sort of kind of like what destiny does in some other their Maps because the way they Destiny do it it's I think that especially destiny 2 which is the one I play it and I never got to play one but that's going to do it they don't know if you know in a very good way where the maps are pretty interesting and you're dropped in you can follow your mission and then you eventually get to two basically an arena or what you would call a central hub which has enough space for you to move around and do other things with other players and get Luke and then whenever you want you can just continue your single-player thing maybe it'll be something like that what kind of loot I don't know because I mean in destiny would make sense when you get like a rare weapon but I gonna get a rare cap shield they're gonna get a rare Ripple's repulsor blasts or whatever yeah so that's kind of weird I don't know what you think of that yeah it cuz it's like you know it's a Marvel game like it makes me start to think like oh I guess think real literal like you're saying like thinking exclusive to each character like stuff that pertains to them or they can go super generic it can be like you get a powerup you know you're you're all of a sudden you're repulsors are super powerful you know or whatever your punches are so much stronger Hulk suddenly is stronger yeah I mean like it depends on that but I do like though that like you're saying it's supposed to be cosmetic so it really shouldn't impact the game therefore those things that I just mentioned makes me go you know it really shouldn't be anything like that you know that really shouldn't be the case it should just be like appearances and costumes and you know silly things and stuff that you see in games all the time so you know it's at least it's not anything that's gonna like affect the gameplay where if you spend more you'll get this stuff yeah I don't think as long as they can't this game doesn't launch you know and some style right we're just like busted and you know the lewd was bad and and you know drop rates were like so super weird and you know glitchy and all this stuff so as long as this game launches in a decent state they should do OK I mean they have a good property in their hands exactly I doubt that they would want to you know mess it up and they have a year I mean this game comes out late May May 25th next I'll show that next comic-con again yeah our next e3 are you saying it well there is probably not it's gonna be out before the next III so all right it'll probably show it at maybe later this year at turkey game show sure maybe we'll get some new stuff at the Game Awards so you know yeah well we'll see Joe Xbox we're talking about Xbox a little bit here on the podcast and you guys if you listen although what we think of what's going on at Xbox right now and one of the biggest problems that the Xbox one has had throughout the entire generation has been game quality and you know expose had the Xbox the Xbox one itself has had a chair of exclusives that have been top rated games you know you got you know for a while there cup eight was exclusive and you know oriental Black Forest and all of the wisp and and you know there's other games that are smaller in scale but they're good games nonetheless but when it comes to like they're big franchises like you know Gears Halo 4 for says the one that definitely has kept up consistency where they're they're basically the top rated Xbox franchise right now you know all the last four games for xbox one since the Xbox one came out I believe have been rated over nine on you know most of the games out law review outlets that are out there so force was doing good they're skipping it this year I know that they're you know again racing games are our show pieces for new hardware they're definitely saving that one for scarlet next year but they've definitely struggled with you know Halo gears that uh that what was that game that the dude from x-men was on was a quantum break quantum break ya games like quantum break and then Bobby Iceman I smell yeah Bobby Bobby the ice cream Bobby the Iceman so Bob in the yasmin game was was pretty okay he did there's some interesting stuff with a being said I'm just remembering those trailers and like look they look cool like but I was like oh it's Bobby he was yeah so so Iceman was not terrible it was innovative the way they makes live action sequences with the game excuse me some of the effects that the game had this you know everything looked fine but you know the game itself was a bit lackluster the last halo look fans did not receive it with you know open arms as you would expect and the same goes for Gears of War you know basically just fans saying that this is more the same they really have an innovative but Phil Spencer acknowledged this problems Joe and and and he did say that there there definitely was enabled quality if you want to go ahead and take over and yeah the way I understand it is that he's basically I'll read to you first before I break it down here but he says here we did reach a time in our first party where the number of games in studios that we actually had put a lot of pressure on everything and it became more difficult to manage a portfolio when you kind of need everything to hit the date and that it had picked three years ahead of time and deliver a very high level of quality the support that we're getting now and we've had over the last couple of years has allowed us to invest in our first party adding eight new studios and really create room for us to focus on quality and really what he's going on to say here and that when you read more of it and look into it more he's basically saying look look PlayStation had their success because of the way their studios are organized they have entire studios and teams dedicated to their first party stuff they give them got their guys plenty of time to get these things out there therefore they keep having first party games and they keep being good cuz they actually have the time to do it he was saying well in our situations a we weren't giving our guys enough time so they would like trying to hit these dates and just cracking out stuff left and right and then he's also saying cracking them cracking down so that that was literally happened to these guys you know that came too late a lot it was too late like three years and we thought I wouldn't even come out of so I still I haven't even seen in the wild so I don't know I don't think it had I don't think it had actually come on say people say came up there's review for it but I don't so so yeah like you know he's saying that like the also they didn't have enough studios like they had a small amount of studios and these guys were just so they were just cranking out the first party stuff then they were going into the other just a lot of rushed situations that weren't good saying look now I've got eight new studios we've got enough stuff and development we're giving our guys time basically trying to do that damage control trust the process project Scarlett's coming we've got plenty of new stuff in the works for it first party that's a good team like you and I think I'm talking about that this is a good news for them like there's actually the right thing that they're supposed to be saying they should be acknowledging these things they should be making changes it sounds like the actual work is being done behind this I mean that's half the battle already the next half is what are these actual games are people going to be interested in them just because they're exclusive are they're gonna be good but that's that's the ready in the right direction right so two things okay do you think that Xbox is – 76ers of gaming where they're ending the process and actually be able to do some damage next year I hope so I really do hope so I really hope that they're there in that situation we're like they spent time rebuilding their brand you know this experiment of Xbox one X and and all this is just you know goes away behind us in the past and we talk about it and we say look X project Scarlett whatever ends up being called you know is actually something that's a really solid console and people can be proud of and respected on both sides of the aisle right that's what we hope yeah good thing is that so Phil Spencer took over Xbox what 2014 right yes Don Mattrick yeah Don Mattrick was outfit of the Xbox spot I think by made by e3 2014 he was already gone right so Phil Spencer took over Xbox Studios in 2014 we're in 2019 Joel is five years hideo kojima showed up in 2016 with a concept trailer and he's games coming out this november three years how do you explain that Xbox has not had you know since he took over and he's saying this now but he took over five years ago they have not had one real mind-blowing innovative brand new IP title out there I mean to me that's that's almost inexcusable absolutely because you have yeah plenty of Microsoft and you have plenty of money cuz you're Microsoft all right so you got you know basically all the money in the world to put into this thing I mean and I say that you know we know there's four jetting and we know there's this things right now are it's you know Martin you know Phil Spencer is not gonna go to Satya then that they lie until and hey I need I need a trillion dollars to make game you know he's not gonna do that because that's that's impossible but they have the resources is what I mean so they definitely have the time to have the resources I mean were they lacking the talent and this is where these acquisitions come in Obed were they lacking vision oh man I've seen plenty of people suffer for lack of vision bro so I don't know that could be it I mean they they different but then at the end of the day they ended up shooting yourself in the foot but like I said Phil Spencer seems like a like a straight-up guy and he's had more than enough time he cancelled scalebound Joe he can't I know that that game looks rough but but yo don't cancel the bottom game cuz you gotta get fast do it was like platinum is a beloved developer you know you're not just gonna not gonna cancel a Kamiya game come on no you're gonna get burned on Twitter that's exactly what what c'mere did it was like oh yeah write them all locked so yeah i yeah I mean what you said lack of vision may may very well be it but you know at the same time maybe just the the studios that marks the phone at the time just didn't have the talent maybe they were lacking in some areas but at the same time again Microsoft is a very appealing company that could definitely offer you know former developers from Crystal Dynamics and it's gray and X and you know Bethesda and all these guys they could definitely offer some good money to bring in talent and if you ask me Joe instead of acquiring Studios like they did they should have instead acquired talent and bring all those guys on their microsoft studios and then build teams inside the studio and then go from there that would have been if I was since Phil Spencer shoes that's what I would have done I would acquire a talent acquired people instead of just buying other companies outright what if the next to ninja Theory's game flop yeah are they gonna close the studio and then you got a bunch of unemployed people over in you know in the UK you know I would just just spend the money on you know on getting the talent because there's plenty of town disappointed talented people you know in the games industry so I would have known that instead so yeah yeah yeah I agree I mean again I think they're going the right direction here by making this explanation giving this this you know public stance but like you're saying a bit like we can't erase the past there's a reality here of a lot of time possibly even more resources than the other guy you know where Microsoft has the ability to make this stuff happen should they have the right vision and execution behind it so yeah I I can only hope that we don't have a repeat of this in the next generation didn't get off to a great foot III open so I mean you know promoting that project Scarlett was was not talked about much at all after that so yeah we'll see not at all it's funny cuz they they talking about Scarlett and then people are talking about that ps5 Pam that came out for 400 times again this week so brow again Sony I'll tell you I'll see other domain okay Joe let's talk about the games journalism or the lack thereof yeah games medias a whole if you want to call it that we'll talk about that in here for the next few minutes so Joe up something interesting happen over the weekend with two personalities dead that I follow closely that is that I've admired for row I want to say nine years maybe you know probably since like 2012 maybe 2011 so so this to gaming voices personalities personalities influencers out there I don't hate that if I hate that word yeah I'm in Florida so to me it's like now I don't really don't like it but personalities let's call it that right no two people that I that I I like I like quite a bit very good opinions and inside and very different personalities different Pro for sure very different political views which again I I keep I'm gonna open mind kind of guy you know i've all right but if i say something wrong I call it wrong kinga you know it's it sees an evil evil guy but yeah so so this two personalities were arguing about about games media and why do video game websites are resorting to use clickbait II sort of articles to bring in views and and one of these personalities which has been shunned by by part of the games journalists community so to speak you know not enough personal time he's able to back up his arguments with with facts and and he brought some facts of the table where gate traffic through games websites like IGN games GameSpot you know of course we've seen it happen to ScrewAttack which is no longer a thing so he was able to point out how traffic to those sites have been you know on a downward spiral for the last eight years ten years because people are just consuming their the the games news in a totally different way they're they're going to YouTube they're going to twitch they're getting their things on demand so so he points out that in order for those sites to generate traffic then you got to come out with with this sort of clickbait articles and and and and I agree because why why is it that there's three different websites that I have to write articles about YP FFA's breast size on Final Fantasy 7 remake was altered or changed or modernize or that's to me that's not news bro to me that's just forcing what could potentially be an opinion article dressed up as you know a news article which is not really news because right tell me about how the game was developed tell me about new technology that the that the development teams is applying to the game tell me about the new music the new you know remastered orchestral soundtrack tell me about some of the you know gameplay elements tell me about those special effects and and that just time slowdown you know the ATV and all this stuff that all this cool stuff that that you get with the game tell me about that that to me is what's interesting tell me about the art design not why I don't care Joel it's like I can't I keep my I'm an open-minded kind of guy but just posting this sort of articles out there you're gonna skip past it yeah and I'm specifically calling GameSpot GameSpot because they were the more egregious of the three with the way that they actually even pushed the article to to relevance because they they definitely have paid a ton of advertising money for this article cuz he was showing enough everywhere and why why waste your time with such like useless nonces like back in the day Joe there was a magazine called next generation and I loved this magazine because it was the only magazine at the time that had interviews with developers on what new technologies they're they're using what can they do with like the 3do and all this stuff right so that to me was interesting that to me was why I went to school to learn how to make video games again that didn't pan out but whatever but you know I still have that that passion for for gaming and for the art of video games and and just to see that that people are just wasting their time with this clickbait the articles and then making this you know exposition pieces about this certain influencers that are doing this thing for the gaming community which which is absolutely not true these people are just creating more harm than good and and and putting this like indie developer that created this one text game and she's now like Hideo Kojima no no no yeah you know to everything right you know do where credit's due you know if someone does a great job they do a great job but you don't have to say you know this is like the next-level stuff this is like next-level kiddie Okajima stuff and no no no stop it stop stop so yeah man no no no you and I talked about this beforehand like we wanted to get into this because I think when we talk a lot about different games we talk about it by different franchises we're both avid fans of the and in the community you've been in this community for a very long time you've seen it grow and evolve and change and you know like you know like when you look at this this clickbait it's it's one of there's two things that I feel about it one I feel like it's inappropriate because and when I say inappropriate is because it's just it I don't think and necessarily I don't think it necessarily brings always always the most truthful points maybe even about some of these games it's more so like you're saying just an opinion piece which in general games journalism it's an opinion I like this game I don't like this game I get that right but I think it's a dangerous slippery slope when you start talking about certain things from the perspective of maybe just even just like political gains like look let's put it like it is or just to to prove a point or support something just for for one perspective and it's like you you know it's a dangerous it's a dangerous place to put yourself and it's my point right like you have a right to absolutely feel how you feel about this or you know maybe it's not at the point that you even could include in your article let's you base your entire thing on this one thing like for the sake of this whole conversation I'll just I'll make up an example because I don't want to talk about people's body parts I'll make it up an example right let's just say let's just say for the sake conversation there is an article that comes out by one two three video games I don't know that's a website who's coming over there right and they basically have an article saying that Mario's hat is very transcendent for the little kids in Italy or something right so like you know it cool there's a cultural relevance that he is an Italian you know man you know wearing this hat you know whatever right that that's that's really cool so I'm not saying you're wrong for maybe saying that opinion but how does that make the Mario game better what if this game has terrible mechanics Ovid what if this game has terrible loading times but you're gonna praise this game because of one particular you're saying like it's a point I get it I'm not gonna come across the point but I'm just saying like I think their needs their reason why people are not going to these things is because they want a larger view and these things are just trying to almost make you just look at these things from a certain perspective just you can click on and get an opinion and a feeling right yeah and here's where he comes to opinion pieces that you mentioned Mario when Super Mario de si came out there was one one of the websites published an article saying that Mario wearing a sombrero was culturally insensitive to Mexicans and you know what happened a bunch of Mexicans went to the article said a few were portrayed that's awesome that our culture is being represented on the game you know so this is the problem and she divided people in that case in this case that was unnecessary right yeah exactly yeah so but my point is you know people say that the this culture or culture that's read that's very prevalent in the gaming sure you know on gaming media because no I mean I have lots of respect for Jason shrine from kotaku Ryan Kotaku they do polish publish some crap from time to time but – and Schreyer man that dude he brings it he makes his points and you know I get facts everything with the facts and and he's he's a you know post his stuff out there and in he's a very capable guy but when you when you go to like the mario stuff is like oh i I think it's here so here's the thing with the article the Mario article in specific I think this is racially insensitive therefore you should not like it but that again why why are you telling me how should I feel again when you and I think would would probably feel the same way of like it's okay if you say look this this Italian characters wearing this hat but it's what you start forcing these opinion pieces that people start to go wait a second oh I don't know how I feel about just wanted to read about this game you know I can make that opinion for myself and if they want to make that voice they can do that sure it's it's that dangerous I think is our point like it's it's being very uh being forced in the generalism and the stats are proving was what this other personality was saying to this other person this other personality that actually writes on this space it's saying like look statistics are showing us that people aren't going to these kinds of sites people are going more to these other videos because they this is what the kind of stuff that they want to intake this other stuff there's like well just like we'll see the headline and we keep scrolling so it's not absolutely working this this kind of clickbait either yeah exactly in some cases it just doesn't even work in the case of like GameSpot I saw the article I didn't even click on it because there's like I don't care I just don't care I mean if you're 13 you may care I guess maybe it may be a different audience but I mean the numbers are shown it yeah yeah yeah well there's there's actual you know factual data telling you that you know unfortunately this sides are you know not generating the the clicks that that they should because of you know how their exposure and why not again this is why I'll say is like this give you the episode to make a break there's no load times oh but you know and and I and I found you know unfortunate that the other personality that was trying to prove the other point across was like oh just because you had a what you know one bad day at the office then all of this sucks I was like no dude this has been sucking for a while yeah and just can you imagine you know say for example you work at man I don't know say failure you work at a mom-and-pop restaurant Joe Smith works at mom-and-pop restaurant problem yeah exactly mom part restaurant and say that mama restaurant hasn't been paying you on time and you know the the cooks mean and you know the place is dirty and you know nothing to get mom about restaurants because there's plenty of them that are fantastic places but say for example that that one of one of the people that worked at the moment pop restaurant left the restaurant I go I'm doing pretty good by myself over here I don't have to deal with a crowd from mom and pop anymore and and then tells the guy from you know that still works that and then the guy that still works at the mom and pop restaurant goes like oh yes because you had one it just still stuck at mom and pops oh just because you know you know one bad day you're not here any more than everything sucks is like well yeah that's what I've been saying for the longest time it sucks I finally got out of it yeah that's the thing man and you know what's unfortunate that the banter was not was not comfortable it was not you know something that I didn't want to see it made us sad yeah I bet it's sad exactly because I really like this two guys right and I and I respect them both individually for what they do creatively and what they're you know what their contribution to the community is but at the same time it's like there's one of you that's clearly right because he's backing up you know he's argument with facts and the other ones saying but you just don't like this stuff like just pointing at the person no facts yeah exactly yeah so it's like it's like again there's like the anti-vaxxer right it's like yo you yeah you have no facts so okay you know welcome here at flat earthers know you do you're gonna also not know watch the low-low time I'm good with that so yeah man it's just that this whole thing and but at the same time you get again going back to Jason Schreyer I am Kotaku you got that article that drop today about you know working conditions and Activision how they treat contractors and all this stuff that are that's like you know this is crazy stuff happening worth talking about because there's important stuff that the intrud that the industry needs to address and the community needs to know about all this crap that's happening not about our should I feel about a real lady not real lady I mean come on it stupid it's a waste of time I mean if you click on and you start reading it's a waste of time a bunny about you know it bothers me again because I like to be open minded you know but sometimes Joe and I seen this with games media and and it's been a problem for a while now I would say that it they got worst around maybe like 2013 2014 probably right around when the new consoles launched that's when all this stuff gets started started getting worse because you know there was one influencer that started putting out this videos pool full of not non-factual stuff clay and this data out there that doesn't exist about you know how gamers treat other people and females in one night I would just you know gamer gamergate app I mean there's different stuff yeah exactly I mean there's and the thing with bullying riot is like so I know that that is rough and especially with this you know social media heavy enacted time and a connected time that we're that we're you know living right now you know but it felt good back in the day Joe when you know bully comes over and tries to bully you and you get to just punch them in the chest and just let it out you know screw it but you know that's you do that when you're in school whatever but when you're an adult it's like why should I just be whining about all this crap 24/7 and be a you know a man baby or or up or a you know woman baby why why do you have to be like this you know I'd say that the gaming has brought people together in a way that no other media has done ever and and that to itself it to me is very important and very near and dear to my heart and just because you know someone has different political opinion or someone has a different opinion on you know social commentary or things that are happening you know opinions are opinions right at the end of the day we are what we do and you know I can have the craziest opinions about stuff and and as long as I'm being a good person towards you know others first and towards myself why should I be mad about stuff you know so yeah that's a little bit of a rant here but I I really wanted to get this off my chest because I've been uh having struggling dude for the last like few weeks because it's been going on and it's been just getting to me bro yeah that's why I mean like you know like I think like as for me like I'm I like to consider myself as a very like understanding very I use the term a lot level-headed individual like I don't go you know picking up pitchforks for everything and I'm very I'm very just trying to be understanding of how some people might feel or their views and those sorts of things and you know bet he throws it out there and he says how he feels and that's you know that's that I told respect that like and and that's why like you'll see me you know for as for me like I can sit there whether we agree or not we respect that but I also means that sometimes we're gonna be uncomfortable about some of the things that we see out there and even though we might respect you know even the individuals like this one the simplest that might be saying some of this stuff doesn't mean necessarily we agree with his opinion and you know look there's data like we're talking about behind the this this space this this game journalism space yours there's definitely more to this than just I don't like this headline I'm not gonna you know read this or I don't like that people are trying to you know have this type of commentary like I'm being careful how I put it but the facts are just that data reveals you know really how people feel about it and there you can literally I mean literally trace like the moment it started I mean and there we were looking at this like a literally nosedives it wasn't even like it dropped a little like a just la minute it was not the data I mean it was just like oh my goodness you mean the second that I started pulling this type of pieces out there that literally people just stopped I may be like you know but if we did one episode that someone you know didn't care for maybe it being very different and trying to put a different thing out there and then suddenly you know you just salute see the data go now I mean it was it's and it's it's been like going on for a while like you said oh but this has been going on for a few years now so there's definitely enough information we can look back I say hindsight is 20/20 you know you can look back at it now and say you know what whether we whether they want to whether the space industry was admitted or not there's a point where they've kind of gone wrong where people you know didn't didn't necessarily care for this when and there's definitely data to back that up so yeah I mean look I'll be understanding of you know how people feel I want people with different opinions to watch her and listen to our show I want people to be a part of it and you have a right to be like I don't really care for this we're not forced to listen to our show or watch our show or even agree with our opinions if you do listen or watch it but I think it's about the manner of how you conduct yourself how you conduct your personality that will either draw or attract a little bit not to go off on this but like you know I'm a youtuber that I respect you know I got to meet him in person once and you know he had a whole like panel on YouTube being and different stuff that I got to listen to at comic-con and you know he talked about how do you want to be remembered like he was such a great way of putting it do you want to be remembered for what you don't like or would you rather people remember you for the things that were shared our passions I think and bring like a fandom and bring people together like this stuff we enjoy or you want no-load time to be remembered as the people who didn't like this thing and didn't like that thing no I don't want people for this other thing yeah yeah I don't want to be known as like the angry cast you know what I'm saying like I wanted to be known as like we're very you know enjoying you know the space enjoying our passions together so I think it's it's it's like that can also carry over into this space right like this can carry over into the games journalism where we can get back to the place of talking about the things that we really enjoy together reading about the things we enjoy together and have these experiences they have just this thing's really terrible usually hate it too but everything's really matter right yeah talking about you know bringing the the industry forward and you know things that are good for everyone not this divisive stuff and that's the problem is that a lot of a lot of these people have put themselves in the line to crave create this divisive 'no scuzz this divisive just was not there up until you had all these people writing all this divisive articles and and and you have all this divisive personalities coming out trying to create rifts that were not there anymore and and unfortunately that's that you you have it man you said it straight up they're gonna be remembered by that person that did this this hateful you know this videos about you know this things that are not even true and and you've camped a bunch of people money basically that's why you're gonna be known for and if you're looking for negativity you always find it like if you're looking for all this exactly like if you're if so if you're looking for negativity in the game space and you're looking for you know like oh this is this is a terrible thing that was done there then of course you're gonna definitely find it so it doesn't mean everything I suppose be sunshine and roses I get that but I also think it's about like we said what do we want to perpetuate what do we want to be the thing that really stands out more than the other thing and especially when you're in a place of influence you're in a place people actually see this stuff you know I would actually even go about how using the platform how we use our own platform here for the through the you know the hundreds of people that listen during the week you knows who are to our to our podcast like it's very important the place that we're in so even as we end the shot of one and I'm a negative point there I think I think that's a great lesson all in also absolutes a great great topic for sure yeah it is and and will definitely circle back and and talked about it have been more at a later time but yeah and we've sort of try to stay away for most of this like controversial like divisive stuff and this is not necessarily divisive we're just you know I feel that that all this divisive nests and and finger-pointing and all this stuff it really sucks and it really like doesn't get us anywhere and and if you love gaming love videogames that and but don't spend your time bashing this other thing we've said it a million times you know there's games that are not our cup of tea but we don't come here and patch them you know I don't just because read that you know to is not my type of game I'm not as I already did it's garbage yeah another day at ena it's just our opinion like you know doesn't we're not we're not gonna hold it as gospel like if you like I know people who like I know I have friends people around me Xbox lovers whatever good I mean I think they should be and still continue to be fans of these things like it's it's it's it's the commentary right we can have the commentary and be safe and be respectful one another and at least for me I try to to have that kind of restate restraint of not not doing what the the other guy might go into you know and and just you know lower myself to that because it's just I think as gamers we can hold that responsibility right like make it ring it as you know adults exactly as adults you know that this is not we're not eighth graders talk about how grade you know the the street fighter to snazz version you know SNES port is and all the you know how terrible gen is the Sega Genesis won't answer or whatever you want to talk about right this is not that right if you if you love gaming prove it make people happy with with not what makes you happy right so if you know say you're really excited about you know the Final Fantasy 7 remake because a lot of people is you know a lot but a lot of people are excited for it I'm certainly excited for it right but instead of wasting your time writing about this things you know about Tifa just write about the the tech write about the new dragon write about the art design write about all these positive things that are moving the game forward instead of just making this stupid opinion argument and on why why this thing was changes what which is actually a good change I would argue because it's like it cuz like look this is how they felt about it so they want to do something about it and guess what whether you know whatever you're not like I think the intent was good so it's been changed for over ten years yeah exact change when Advent Children came out in 2005 yeah like it's it's it's not something that I think like you're saying like to harp on the negative of the past and is not like the perspective of the commentary exactly like it this this thing was changed a long time ago they're just just trying to go back and create you know stir the pot right and that's what the clickbait they clean that's my problem yeah and that's why I'm frightened that's that's overall that's my problem you know there's I purposefully trying to stir the pot get the clicks get the views but instead of just spending that energy and write about something interesting you know the development process what happened to cyber connect did Square Enix killed everyone in cyber connected and came back you know all this stuff right but a big interesting stuff just don't don't stir the pot and at the end of the day that's my point so Joe let's be good bro but more can everyone find us yeah guys thank you for listening to this episode of nolo time we appreciate you all staying here with us and we want to invite you to subscribe to our show you can watch our youtube version and subscribe there on our youtube channel nolo time and also subscribe to our audio podcast version that's gonna be an iTunes Google Play SoundCloud and Spotify also one of my two to connect with us on our social media go ahead and follow us at no load time that's at no loo time on Facebook Twitter Instagram and twitch also feedback I mean we talked about a lot of really interesting stuff here you're welcome more than welcome to send feedback to no load time at gmail.com that's no load time at gmail.com we hope you stay with us and enjoy our next we have besides we're looking for episode 100 big things in store remember next week we 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