DON'T BUY ANCHOR CHAIN BEFORE WATCHING THIS!

DON'T BUY ANCHOR CHAIN BEFORE WATCHING THIS!



so I know he may seems like we're doing one big project at a time in the videos but really we're working on a billion things all at once so today it's gonna be more of a miscellaneous Monday thing we're gonna share with you one of those sides little detours and the project of today is replacing our chain yes so two years ago in Miami before we left we replaced our rope anchor road with all chain because the Caribbean there's coral heads and stuff that can shave your line which isn't good unfortunately we didn't have enough money to buy high quality chain we bought high strength chain we got high test g43 chain but unfortunately it wasn't made to a very high standard which means after two years it's all rusty the links have already stretched so that they don't fit in our windlass anymore and there's there's actual chunks of rusts coming off of it it's it's really bad so today we're gonna pull all the old chain and the anchor and replace it with new stuff and probably we're gonna have to put a new swivel on because our old swivel it's probably not going to come off without a grinder so let's do it so one of the problems with having such rusty chain is when it goes down through the hole in the deck and piles up down in the chain Locker it piles up into a big long pile and doesn't like Slough down and because of that then when we go sailing the whole thing rolls over so there's chain upside down on itself and when you're trying to take it out it kind of knots up and won't like easily fall down because new chain and is usually pretty smooth kind of undoes itself as it goes but this chain keeps knotting itself up and will come up this hole so like this is what we're talking about by chunks falling off look at this like you can just peel it off with your fingers it's important to know that just because it's made in China doesn't mean it's poor quality you can get anything manufactured in China ar-rahman is actually manufactured in China but it's manufactured to a higher specification this chain was manufactured to a very low specification and that's why it's falling apart after only two years like actually falling apart change would look like this effort this is the last 20 feet of our chain it's a part that we never really used very much and as you can see it doesn't have chunks falling off this is what chain should look like after about ten years and you can normally get it rigged Alvin eyes if it hasn't stretched too much but this is the exact same chain this is the part that's been in in the ocean and what we've been using and there's just there's just big chunks falling off of it so our new chain is actually manufactured in China as well but it's manufactured to the Canadian spec the specifications that Canada requires high test chain to be made – which is a much higher spec than this is so it should last a lot longer we're gonna scrap this chain because it's not good for anything anymore so this is our old swivel also manufactured in China to a low standard um but it's held in by these little little tiny allen screws that hold the pin in and they've already stripped when we try to take it out before so I'm gonna have to cut it off unfortunately all right now that the chain is out and it's time to clean up so we're gonna clean the deck and all their us and we're gonna clean inside the chain Locker as well one of the not-so-nice things that all that rusty chain left was a really dirty chain Locker so key cos cleaning it out how's it going in there uh be that your implement of death well now is time but at the poop stain remover you're repping the gist cats huh put it on the back own a respirator yeah I don't want to know what that stuff is yeah I don't want to know what's in that jar because it's incredible how well it works this is uh it's this is not a paid advertisement from whatever arrest remember that is it's just someone recommended it to us and we tested it on our hull where that chain had been like the rust stain from the chain had been like dripping down the side of her Hall and two minutes later all the rust was gone it was amazing so now actually think was Brandon Brandon from parasailing and Brandon from The Impossible Dream I think he was want to recommend it so thanks buddy because it works really really well maybe we'll even leave a link for it in the description of this video because it works so well yeah just let it sit for like three five minutes or so and then come in and it hose it all out oh it's on there we're just gonna spray everything that was rusty with this and hopefully it works on those it's already working on the rope this kind of creepy oh my gosh [Applause] well this was another one of our issues this is the chain roller and it's it's made out of aluminum so where the anchors been sitting or where the chains been sliding over it created like a flat spot if you see that and it also doesn't have a groove in the middle so that the chain aligns itself as it comes in so the chain was actually rotating as it came in but luckily Kiki's dad runs a machine shop in Haiti and he made that that point and he made this bad boy it's heavy as hell it has the groove in the middle for the chain and it should fit a lot better and it should last a lot longer it's also a much larger diameter it doesn't look like it but it's almost double the diameter in the middle so that it should make it easier to pull the anchor up and over and the anchor chain I don't think you're in that shot anyway we have this piece of rope down through the windlass through the hospitai into a big monkey fist tight on the bottom so that it can't come out and then we sort of weave it through the end of the chain so it does two things one if you accidentally drop too much chain it'll catch it from losing all your chain overboard and two if for some reason we'd ever need to like cut anchor and leave like it was stuck and there was a boat trying I don't really know why we'd ever need to but you could let out all the chain and then just cut this rope tie like a fender off to the end or something cut it come back for it later so it kinda access to as to safety precautions I guess the way we put it on it's not really a splice we just kind of take some chain and then just weave it through every couple of links because it's not going to hold the weight of the boat it's just to keep the chain from falling in the ocean [Applause] all right our last anchor swivel didn't survive the saltwater very well it was another Chinese made pretty inexpensive got all rusty and seized up this one is made in Italy k9k 9ng something like that looks like that it's a much better design it only has one screw holding the whole thing together so it should be easier to take off again in the future and you know we just really like having a swivel it helps keep the chain from getting all knotted up and it helps bring any anchor up over the bow a lot easier too it's all sleek and smooth and it just flops over the bow really easily this one is pretty slick it comes apart with just one like some larger allen screw get a lot more torque without stripping it all right so the Allen screw comes out this comes off that's the part that goes to the chain this breaks free and then swivel is 180 and comes apart and that's the part that goes to the actual anchor so to put it together this part goes to the anchor rotates and now it's locked in place and then put these two parts on here that part goes to the chain that all comes together like that Allen screw goes in here the first thing I put some Loctite on it that's it with alicia's we like having our anchor swivel attached directly to the anchor which is actually what they recommend you do have to be a little bit careful pulling the anchor out and make sure when you pull the anchor out you're pulling straight up and over the anchor because if you start to pull on the side theoretically it could Bend this stainless shank and do damage to it we had our old swivel on four to two and a half years anchoring in all sorts of different situations we never had an issue with it bending but we were also pretty aware of how we were pulling our anchor and making sure we're pulling straight over it so you are pulling off this side or anything like that seems to work well especially because then you don't need an anchor swivel and then a piece of chain and then a shackle and it makes the retrieval process a bit more messy but yeah let's get this thing on the boat so I almost book Dan's hint today it's fine just a little bruised it's all good probably shouldn't have had my hand back because I knew the anchor touches yes this is probably my fault I'm sorry is it even my kiss words anyway guys I really hope you enjoyed this miscellaneous video and if you did give it a thumbs up and don't forget to subscribe for more videos yeah yeah that happens it's easy just click on that and we'll see you on Thursday

37 thoughts on “DON'T BUY ANCHOR CHAIN BEFORE WATCHING THIS!

  1. If you want to remove rust just put whatever you got in a bucket of vinegar for a few days. I use this to remove rust from all my fishing tools that rust.

  2. I wonder if you sprayed the chain with fresh water as it comes in from the sea before going into the chain locker?

  3. I have 300 ft of chain on my sailboat, but have been able to use only 150 ft because of kinking in the chain (gets hung up in the gypsy). Your video made me realize that slightly rusted chain "castles" when retrieving the anchor- then it falls over in the chain locker which leads to twisted chain. I have a swivel on the anchor, and the gypsy will not allow the chain to be twisted when retrieving the anchor- but the castling clearly explains the source of the kinks! I need new chain or re-galvanization. Thanks!

  4. Dan, I'm going to replace my rope and 25' of anchor chain with an all chain anchor rhode because I plan on spending most of my time at anchor instead of spending money for expensive marina's. I used to carry 300' of weighted anchor line however, I've never even come close to using all 300'. I'm wondering how much chain you are installing? I plan on cruising the east coast of the US and the Bahamas & Caribbean. I'm thinking 200' of chain should be sufficient, but some people are saying 300' and others are telling 125 is more than enough. I wonder your opinion as you've been doing this a lot longer than me. Thanks!

  5. Its just the steel used for many chinese low quality ferrous products is made from recycled scrap, full of impurities and corrodes quickly and galvanically.

  6. Cheap sandblasting. Take your 300' chain and "fold" it into 75' lengths (x4). When traveling through the Great American Deserts, find a l-o-n-g gravel road. Clip said chain onto the back of your truck and drag it a few miles until it looks like steel again. Reverse the "folds" and repeat. (So much fun; do it again!) Because sandblasting is a job that really sux.

  7. Why do you have so much chain? I have about 8' before the rode, which is more than enough to lay the plow anchor down to dig in.

  8. I was about to buy some stainless steel chain for my boat until I saw this… Freshwater sailboat the galvanized chain will probably outlast the boat

  9. Rust remover is usually just oxalic acid. Nothing too crazy. It also revitalizes uv-beaten wood (kind of). You can buy it powdered and just mix as needed. I learned this cleaning rust stains off concrete and houses for a lot of profit 🙂

  10. For rust removal use a mild acid. The milder the slower the reaction. The rust gets converted back to elemental iron and is washed away when water cleanup is done. Navel Jelly works well – it contains the mild acid phosphoric acid, and is formulated in jelly form which helps it to stick on vertical surfaces while it does it's job. Strong acids work fast and well too but are dangerous to use, both from the standpoint of getting burns on your self or the surrounding surface that you don't want to damage if a spill occurs, and the runoff and clean up is more hazardous to humans, pets, and aquatic environment, plus the fumes are a hazard.

  11. Put a bucket that fits in the chain locker room so if it does rust the rust goes into the bucket as well as the chain in the locker

  12. Looks like I'm gonna need to make some serious monies if I want to plunk my boat in the Caribbean this winter 😳. Thanks for sharing this 🙂

  13. I have worked with chains my whole life, and I have to say that crap chain you replaced was the WORST chain I have EVER seen in my entire life!! Laugh!!!
    Good job changing it!! 😉

  14. Even Chinese will not buy Chinese made products if they can avoid them. It's so bad hat companies routinely label theirs as "Made In USA, Japan, Korea or Germany. Without that they cannot be sold.

  15. there is electro plate (thin) galvanizing, which is completely crap as far as corrosion, then there is hot dip galvanizing which is a much thicker, usually very rough to touch layer of zinc. The hot dipped is by far the best. The more zinc on the chain the better. It takes the corrosion that would otherwise be ruining the steel. On hulls, they use zinc anodes on the outside of the boat to take the corrosion that would otherwise happen on the prop shaft, prop, and rudder hardware. See "galvanic corrosion" which describes how stray electric currents accelerate salt and freshwater corrosion,, and the "nobility table of metals" which tells which metals are sacrificed compared to the others. Off topic:::: Tiny stray voltages of AC or DC can paralyze and kill people in the water, even at very tiny amperages. Coast guard volunteers did a study on this fairly recently and the results were surprising. Never jump in the water at a marina without testing the voltage and having a polypro safety line hooked to you, and an alert person on deck to haul you in. Thrown in a bag of chickens to test for voltage,, just kidding.

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