Congress VS Parliament | Politics! British VS American | Evan Edinger & Jazza John

Congress VS Parliament | Politics! British VS American | Evan Edinger & Jazza John

hello everybody and welcome to a special episode of British vs. Americans day featuring me Jazza Joe my name that's actually a name of a British Member of Parliament is it isn't that what everyone calls problem oh no he's jazz we learned something today they were talking about politics couldn't get Jeremy Corbyn I got shot Jeremy Corbyn I mean that's offensive to me on so many level no probably right the purpose of this video was basically I find it very interesting that not a lot of Americans understand how the British Parliament works how the British government works and I feel like not a lot of British people understand fully how the u.s. works why it's come to the place it is as an American I'm still confused about brexit I watch stuff about it all the time I would literally watch loads of parliament hearings so first off the US has a written constitution mm-hmm very proud of this any senator you'll talk to Blair yet don't forget it's unconstitutional but there's nothing in the Constitution that says you can't do those things it's just one of those words you use how does the British constitution work because it's not a thing there's no written constitution there is no Constitution which is really funny because actually we are like used as an example of the basis of a lot of kind of like a constitutional laws across the world that we impose on other people so as you've been doing for so long as we've been doing for any long time so we have the first kind of like codified rights of people in the Magna Carta that still is basically the base of the rights that we have as from the Magna Carta yes yeah yeah a lot of kind of like citizens rights and and rights of those who are ruled um come from the Magna Carta but so much of the UK's like rights are all based on kind of like premise but then how do you know that it's real that you can be protected if it's just a premise um giving people the benefit of the doubt I don't really do that yeah no I know I mean that's actually one of the problems we've grexit that like we're going through like this big kind of like democratic shock with the UK at the moment we don't really have the codified nothing formalities necessary for us to be able to properly go through it like for example the Prime Minister is just something we made up it's never been codified the role of the point hey just like we should probably should have won shall we just do it so if you didn't if you don't know this this is actually on my favorite parts about how the British government works whoever is the winner of the majority in terms of the party let's just say labour or conservatives which is basically liberals or conservatives they just elect the one of their own to lead the entire government right well the leader convention is the leader of the party with the largest number of members of parliament will be the Prime Minister and that's true actually in most numbers of intial systems I like that a lot because they like angle-angle and Merkel isn't even she doesn't even like Angela Merkel Germany she is in a coalition with two parties but because hers is the largest of those two parties she's she's the coalition of chaos I don't know how she's quite good not sure but I'd like that a lot more because in the u.s. you have to vote for a figurehead whereas in the UK you vote for the ideals ideally and the party and then the party you know it's not just one person it can change we can go we don't like this leader and how often can you do that because I got freaked out when I found out you can just say I don't have confidence than this leader and you guys just get rid of them just switch are out yeah how often can you just vote no confidence what can the well you can have a vote of no-confidence how often like whenever that's so I don't think there's a restriction on it um but the reason that they don't generally happen is because normally under our first-past-the-post system you will have a majority government so there will be one party what's first-past-the-post first-past-the-post is whoever gets the most votes in a constituency will end up being the person elected so it doesn't matter if you've won by one vote that one person will end up going whatever then a proportionate system we do that in the USA yeah we have similar yes do you guys Jerry man it like it's complicated but we have an independent body that decides that draws our boundaries that's fair because if for those of you unaware of the u.s. is very bad with gerrymandering where people will draw out the different constituencies to make sure that you get a lot of Republicans or a lot of Democrats in a particular district even though it's not actually split that way so you'll see the craziest shapes just because they rigged it basically so you guys have independent bodies to compare yeah we makes a lot of sense do you feel like it's not fair that people represented in the constituency of John Burke House constituency aren't represented do they know who John Burke oh he is the Speaker of the House yeah he basically which if you can describe it the speaker the houses because I actually because the house is basically our version of the president so so the president so the president in the US traditionally was exactly that he was somebody who presided over process yeah they didn't actually have a lot of power in the US or in systems and then it's become this big personality that version of that the person who kind of overlooks parliamentary process is the Speaker of the House like we'd usually have majority Parliament the speaker isn't very powerful at all they get to choose what gets debated but that's about it but now John Bercow is very powerful is the most powerful speaker that we've had in in generations and generations purely because of the he seems very funny and well-spoken he I'm also duh he's meant to intervene and stop people from misbehaving and he'll the Honorable gentleman then Westbrook sure yeah Westbrook I made up a thing and probably sounded real sounds legit the right an honorable gentleman from yeehaw Queen is the head of state and has a sugar power it's just she can murder people right yeah yeah yeah she can do she could stand in the middle of emergency somebody and she's fine but it's convention that she doesn't have power she could dissolve what if she just dissolves it yours I'm a monarch again it's time to bring it back Empire I'm straight yeah I kind of like that we will quite like the Queen again because of the crown I think the way that the u.s. works if you want to pass a law you basically have to get a bill put in the house one of the congressmen are come or someone has to like put that forward people vote on it gets 50% goes to Senate gets 50% go to the president who can then sign it it's a law or vetoes it brings it back and then over two-thirds of the vote of both the Senate and the house boom it's a law there's a lot of checks and balances I like that it except for filibustering how does it work in the UK in terms of the process from I thought my wants to be a law to being a law the government generally will put forwards and the government's the majority they're gonna say no and so there are the majority and then there is the government which is part of the majority so the largest part we'll have the government okay kind of like all of the ministers and with the cabinet members and stuff like that so everybody who basically has a brief is in charge of a particular part of policy is part of the government so the government puts forward a bill and then it gets debated in the House of Commons proposals we've put down four amendments and that kind of and then it boated on generally if it is the majority who have put it forward and they have a comfortable majority they don't most people go yeah well they will vote but they like they'll go through pretty easily but because we have a hung parliament that's all over the shop at the moment then it goes to the House of Lords what is the House of Lords I do not know what it's for we've been only been talking about the House of Carmen there's an analogy that the House of Commons is basically House of Representatives and the Senate is based of the house Lords but I don't think they know they're not the same they are the same in terms of lay our lower house and upper house and we have a bicameral system so we have so the upper house the Lord's has oversight over what the House of Commons does but is it ceremonial I never sell you know they have they have power oh they actually have power no sugar one of the Lord said Lord sugar is the Lord it's just a taxing sugar is our Lord and Savior corn syrup as well their role is to look over a bill that has been passed by the Commons and to be like yeah this is sound this can they shoot things down yeah what they can't block them but they can send them back to the House of Commons and be like you should probably like adjust some of this stuff can they just keep doing that or is there like a check and balance where the Commons can go no again it's just convention so that's the convention yet because they will be polite about it actually yeah no really like like there's there's no not have like just two filibusters and people just being dicks to be dicks tied up yeah there's no rule about how often they can send it back but generally they House of Lords doesn't completely block government policy because um democratic legitimacy comes from the House of Commons because the Lord's are appointed nobody believes in God but we've got bishops in the House of Lords the US wants to be the UK and you here wants to be the US and no that's not good like that I tried my best the Queen have to ratify every law yeah she like rubber stamps and she could sale of power to do that these days yes she technically actually has the power to say no thanks and to not sign powers into law and then hypothetically hypothetically but she's never like the monarch has never hasn't died since and you're saying it's an unwritten thing so like there isn't anything in place where if she does that what's the percentage then the House of Commons can still pass it yeah ya know if the Queen went rogue and she could stop all parliamentary fur she can dissolve Parliament she can just go now I found out this recent thing about us partition recently that blew my mind which is the Senate majority basically if Congress want to pass something like I said it goes to the Senate however if the Senate has a majority of a certain party right now it's held by the Republicans the leader of the controlling party can just stop it before it even get to the floor to be voted on that seems stupid yeah so like recently it was a unanimous vote in the House of Representatives which was 422 0 sorry plays it so I was for twenty20 and it was please show the Mueller report to the public once it's made available it went to the Senate where the leader Mitch McConnell just went nope we're not gonna vote on it yeah no bipartisanly unanimously everyone said we want this in Congress the Senate can just go oh no I'm a leader and it's not even get voted on even though it would pass everybody in the u.s. whether you're in the House of Representatives or the Senate or if you're the president everybody has the ability to just kind of like stop stuff from happening and be a block yeah so you so many unlocks in the US and you require there to be a lack of polarization or if you have different people running different parts of the government there has to be like a broad agreement for stuff to go through but now because everything is so polarized they disagree on literally absolutely everything yes and so there's no like whenever you don't have like the houses and the presidency then you're not allowed to fast anything no nothing really happens everything is just at a standstill when you have a Republican president and a Democratic House yes it was the problem that Obama had and then he had to do everything with executive orders yes then it was really easy for Trump to out of curiosity do you know much about the judiciary branch the judicial branch I know you have no justice how many just is there's nine justices were in court and they get appointed by the president yes it is sick and it's luck it's luck of when they when they we it is annoying because you think that the judicial branch would be the one unbiased form of government yeah but it is just partisan as well I like the amount of checks and balances it's just I feel like recently it's made so apparent that these are very easily corruptible even the fact that Trump was able to pick his Attorney General who would then be able to choose if the report was bad against Trump it should be independent yeah like there's gonna be bias but I just feel like the level of partisanship that now exists not just in your in the US but in the UK is what kind of is really testing the democracies that we have set up so I see the US and I see kind of like the system withstanding the shock of Trump yeah but I don't really see that with the UK I feel like our system is not built for something like that one thing I do like about the UK is there are a lot more parties political parties that actually do pass yeah not many people there's like Liberal Democrats I think you kept lost them all but there's still other parties that get votes yeah no it's just independence or Republican or Democrat and no one else really does anything and also there's like how many independents not many yeah we need both of our countries need to have Australia's system as a who has it no well New Zealand have a proportionate sis New Zealand has important it makes so much more sense but no one is going to vote that in because then they would lose the power as the part the Lib Dems try to get it in as part of the smaller party of the coalition and they put it to a referendum but then finish people voted it down because where it is yeah it went to so depressing yeah it's really sad I don't know that because everybody hated Nick Clegg because of tuition fees does that have anything to with the port politics being knighted no being knighted is just a nice things I have a nice thing to have hi Joe is just a just an American president can only hold for two terms yes eight years wait Prime Minister how long there's no limit like I'm making come in and be voted and again like Churchill we just came out yeah fat was Prime Minister for 12 years Wow Mele how much of a role in politics does money play in the UK because in the u.s. there's so many different lobbying groups that all have their money in different senators and House of met representatives pockets cool so when it comes to traditional like TV advertising I'll not talk about TV I'm just talking about like I want to know do you want any like shares in our company that's an oil company thanks there's a law coming up about oil yeah so of course that happens in the UK but is no I know is bad because they have to declare their external interests oh but yeah when it comes to like ah when do your campaigns start for general election because in the u.s. two years before the president like its elected we just start for a full two years it's like hey here we go it's time to do this again you have an election period of six weeks well I guess it's because there's so many six weeks that's crazy I'm sorry I just wait what III guess it's just because there is no president it's just every individual constituency so you're mostly voting for parties that it wouldn't be as much mudslinging as in the US where it's like Bernie Sanders secretly worships Stalin yes although you do see that for like the party leaders like oh yeah I kind of stand yeah you have like a picture so yeah why was that I mean he should have learned how to eat pork but in the u.s. we have a lot of political action committees more pa see and what they do is they have huge amounts of money yeah Pat well we don't use that word in the UK it's a bit offensive oh okay oh let's just say I'm running for president I won't even have these ads in my name it'll be these huge mudslinging ads against you and at the end it's like evan is the only president we can have paid for by the super PAC that way so it wasn't even me so that way I'm not in trouble for it it was just a group of people that have a lot of money that want me to be in power because then I paid them back so you don't have anything so political advertising used to be very very stupid no political like adverts and there had to be a balance of citizen tation of all parties on broadcast media I like that except now the internet exists yes and the Internet has kind of thrown all around the window and we have similar kinds of organizations that like pressure groups especially around the vendôme because it was non was about leaving but remain there yeah and they were they were big broad churches that encompassed lots of people from different political persuasions there are lots of restrictions about what because you can panes can men and how they spending limits yeah they're spending limit and also we're like how much they spend in particular parts of the organization and stuff like I find that the UK doesn't have as much of a focus on dill boards and those signs that people put up like they're there but when I was in Munich it just felt like every telephone pole had a different person oh you mean Bailey for me you know somebody mainland Europe does it very do and the US as well it's just like every house will have huge signs like everyone will be so happy to be like vote for this guy bumper stickers you guys are just kind of like I know I think I need vote for a Teresa may well know you would have bumper stickers and you would have um maybe not but it was all dope for Teresa maze team because we forget that Teresa maze very unpopular but at the time he polled more popular than conservatives so people van as Teresa maze candidate that avid unreserved hence while same with the US Republicans will say bump in me are best friends vote for me and the like tweet all of his tweets and reply they get that one photo with them yeah and then look if you like Trump you like me and it's like let's just talk about your policies man you know how many amendments we have the Constitution is it 27 it is exactly and didn't the first 20 happen in the first life yeah a few years first century yeah it's the most recent one we had passed was the 27th and that was in 1971 and that was slavery no 13th 13th yes 18th was prohibition and 21st was or bad we didn't mean prohibition at this point no one's really going to be passing laws that are going to be amendments in the US it's just so unlikely mm-hmm because we have a written law but it's not nothing you know what's gonna be added to it we'd some people not be doing it maybe there's some people who've been talking about there being a convention in the US rewriting the Constitution that would be amazing but gun toters would not enjoy that no it's around that it's been weaponized yes very I mean Second Amendment is getting guns AOC the Democrat from the Bronx she actually is exactly well know Acacio Cortes yes she is actually more well known with Fox viewers than she is with her own parties viewers because Sox hates her so much they will constantly throw her name out because she's evil she's evil she's evil and Democrats don't actually even know who she is because there's no like oh yeah she's just doing her job she also can't run for president cause she's not 35 no no she couldn't run she's something else that we don't have a restriction on really yeah it's no I like that you have to be at least 35 to be President do you want to win 2020 I like Bernie he's a he's currently the front-runner at the moment there's like other people running there's better work there's cory booker who's actually from my state but he's got some new toys he's got like two hands in like the medical industry he's writing their wishes to head no he's Wow I personally have always liked Sanders he's always stayed to his word and if you look at one of his policies he agrees in right now you'll find something about him saying it in the 70s he's never really flip-flopped he's always been true which i think is admirable mm-hm it's hard to find people like that these days I can actually run in like seven years yeah campaign starts now can you guys please vote this video with a thumbs up if you devote for me for president thank you I feel any other interesting questions about politics please leave them or comments and hopefully our large community will help you out this has been a fun video thanks for joining me where can people find you on the other you can find me on my channel which I'm sure Evan will be linking somewhere great where I talk about politics social stuff I'm also occasionally a bit queer but if 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32 thoughts on “Congress VS Parliament | Politics! British VS American | Evan Edinger & Jazza John

  1. Hey y'all! Hope ya liked the new video! 🙂 It's meant to be a fun, surface-level look at how parliament operates vs congress.
    Based on previous feedback, I wanted to spend a lot of time in this video getting a lot of information from Jazza. I definitely learned a lot and had a fun time.
    One extra thing though, in 2011, parliament passed an act prohibiting the queen from dissolving parliament.
    This was unknown to Jazza and me before filming.
    Just wanted to add that li'l correction. 🙂

  2. You have not considered Oliver Cromwell, he and his 'people' reversed the power of the monarchy and parliament.The English Civil War was basically about Charles i not calling and dissolving Parliament at will and not often, plus catholic leanings, wanting to spend money on wars etc

  3. We do have a constitution in the UK (hence we can have a constitutional crisis, as when Edward abdicated).
    It's just that it's drawn from different sources, rather than just one. The main sources being common law (precedents arising from court cases), statute (laws passed by Parliament), Parliamentary conventions (unofficial rules about how something is done in Parliament), and (this is where it gets a bit weird) books written by constitutional experts explaining how the constitution works (called works of authority – though there are only a handful, there aren't twenty a year being published that would qualify, and they've been around since the 19th century).

    Technically a lot more probably rests now on the Acts of Union (two sets) and the Parliament
    Acts, than on things like Magna Carta and the Forest Charter, although they were where Parliamentary democracy began.

    It's true that effectively Parliament is all powerful. And although the Queen can't dissolve Parliament any more, she can dismiss a PM and appoint a new one (not necessarily of the majority party) if she so chooses. Though she's only appointed a PM when there was no majority (in the 70s).
    It's also true that direct action of the people can overturn Parliament (meaning mass action – and theoretically, I'm not advocating revolution – but it's possible – for all our rep, we do have a long history of booting people out of power (or trying to)).

    The problem with comparing US law and British law is that they come from different starting points. Making a huge generalisation (cos obvs not this simplified), anything that isn't specifically made legal in the US is banned. Where as in the UK, anything not specifically made ILlegal is perfectly legal. For example – in the US in places where jaywalking carries a fine, they get away with it because it's just not made legal. Here you'd have to specifically ban it and there'd be a huge outcry.

  4. Just FYI the House of Lords can only send legislation back to the Commons for one parliamentary session, then they just gotta accept it

  5. Hello, about halfway through the video you stated that the lords could conceivably keep passing the bill back to the commons this is not the case. In fact this was addressed in the 1911 parliament act which was later amended to allow one year Delay before the comments could bypass. It used to be the case that it was a convention but this is in fact law that sits in the statute book. Good to video nonetheless. There is minor point in this video regarding procedure however the point illustrated above was The biggest mistake. Fun video though

  6. the reason a proportional representation system leads to a poor democratic system is that you result in a parliament that is too fractured. Hence why Angela Merkel is in a 3 party coalition.

  7. King Charles III is an entire play about a future monarch refusing to give royal assent to a government bill.

  8. Not true on the HOL rejecting policy. Then can only block a law for a period up to a maximum of 12 months.

  9. In Australia everybody HAS to vote in an election. You can just go into a polling booth say where you’re from and vote there!

  10. The US system is a stupid system devised by 18th century arrogant slave holders. There is nothing good about it which is examplified by its corruption and the corruption of every other banana republic that mimics it. The UK Parlimentary system is far superior.

  11. Jazza, what about the UK Bill of Rights? It is a real, codified, not-EU-derived, 17th century legal instruments.

  12. Jazza John could not be more pleased with himself. He looks in a mirror to see the one he loves the most.

  13. so ive been watching a lot of these american vs british vids and its like im over here being all like im kinda both but meanwhile im canadian so are we the best being like half british half american in terms of stuff we do and or have?

  14. Note the Speaker of the House cam also stop anything from moving on. A lot of Dems want an impeachment vote, and since Pelosi says no, it is not happening. Also no you cannot run in 7years Evan. I believe you have to be 35, US born, and a citizen for the previous 14 years to be president.

  15. The reason America doesn’t have parties is cos of factions u don’t have uniform policies it. Is split over states so there is no need for parties

  16. what the queen could do is ask for the rents on her land, people have such an issue about giving her 40 million a year or so. if she was to say ok fuck this money just give me the rent on my lands instead she would be getting £475 million a year, so fuck you daily mail

  17. The comment nobody believes in god is not true. The majority don’t but there still is a large forgotten minority

  18. I worked for a super PAC in the US last year and I had to go door to door collecting data by chatting with folks. Definitely a very eye opening experience to hear all sorts of people talking about their political beliefs 😂 I would not do it again although it was very rewarding at times

  19. There is a restriction on the vote of no confidence "if" the party leader wins. (Time code 3:25).
    It's set by the party. In the last one called in December 2018, Theresa May (them prime minister) won. The conservative party rules then state another vote of confidence cannot be called for another 12 months. But that's just within the actual party. Someone from the opposite party can then try and call for a vote of no confidence. Even when a vote is called, there has to be so many other mps backing it. People can't just challenge whenever they want, they have to have support of quite a few others.

  20. Even the build-up to the Brexit Referendum was only a couple of months and there wasn't really any meaningful debate about it. Was basically 1 group saying the UK would turn into a Mad Max film and the other saying the sky would rain money. Since then, its been about 3 years of politicians doing nothing while distracting people from virtually every other important topic in the UK other than Brexit. Great fun :/

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